My semi-finalized test prop/sd/var cycle...
- 02-08-2006, 04:54 PM
My semi-finalized test prop/sd/var cycle...
Weeks 1-3: 100mg test prop EOD
Weeks 4-5: 125 (possibly to 150) test prop EOD
Weeks 6-11: 100mg test prop EOD
40-60mg Anavar (starting with 40, moving up as needed)
Weeks 8-11: 200IU HCG on tuesday and friday of each week
*SD taken with 1 cup grapefruit juice 10mg twice daily
**.5cc-1cc added to prop. inj. depending on site to ease soreness next day
Milk Thistle 80% Silymarin: 900mg daily (split up once three times)
Hawthorne Berry: 1500mg daily while on SD and 1000mg daily while not
NAC with Selenium and Molybdenum: 1200mg daily (split up twice daily)
Zinc: 50mg before bed
Magnesium: 500mg before bed
Vitamin C: 1500mg daily (split up 3 doses)
Taurine: 2 grams/daily
ALCAR: 1.5 grams/daily
6 meals/daily (1 right before bed)
3-4 days/weekly with sprint sessions added in occasionally
Olympic lifting with some iso's
Going for an even distribution of strength/hypertropy
Lean Extreme: 2pills daily
Fenugreek: 1/1/1/2/2 pills daily
Tribulus: 1/1/1/2/2 pills daily
What do you guys think? Should do wonders for size and strength.
- 02-08-2006, 05:44 PM
There is no need to taper up then down on the Test Prop. Go with 150mg's eod from weeks 1-11. If you have never used var before, then just stick with 40mg's for the entire use of it.
I'm still learning about HCG, but I do believe you should begin using it after week 2? I may be wrong here. However, there is really no need for HCG with a light cycle such as this, imo, but it doesn't hurt either.
Also, anavar has some appetite suppressant qualities. You may find it hard to keep the calories up with it.
- 02-08-2006, 06:22 PM
Well there is a reason for the taper in those weeks. Since I will be on test only for those weeks and will be doing heavy sprinting and cardio, I want the added anabolic/androgenic properties.
I am training for CFL and I have practices those weeks so I need to keep muscle wasting to a minimum. It wasn't meant to be a taper just a way to cover the weeks where I am not on two things.
02-08-2006, 06:26 PM
Doesn't make sence to me, but I'm not one to ask about what you are wanting it for. Normally, you want to keep your blood levels even during a cycle such as you laid out. I just don't see how it would assist/benefit you with adjusting the dosages for you training during those weeks.Originally Posted by TrainTilUDrop
02-08-2006, 06:30 PM
Hmm, well I am definitely not the expert and I have always respected your advice but here was the reasoning I had (haha could be wrong ):Originally Posted by Cuffs
Weeks 4 and 5 I will be on test only instead of being on two separate drugs and I didn't feel, when making this out, that with heavy lifting 3 times per week and 2 1/2 hours of sprinting and football practices, that 100mg of test eod by itself would be very effective so I figured I would bump the dosage a little until I started the var. I didnt want to start the var directly after the SD due to liver problems. Figured I would give my liver a two week break and take a lot of the liver support supps.
This a bad idea?
02-08-2006, 06:34 PM
Actually, I can see the reasoning when put that way. Looks good. The cycle you laid out it more of a cutting cycle, or to build some LBM, diet permitting of course. One could never go wrong with Test P stacked with var, imo. Check on the HCG protocol and you should be golden.
02-08-2006, 06:39 PM
Well I definitely need the mass. It was amazing how much weight I had lost and that is coming along nicely. I am not looking to get freakishly big and have it be pure hypertrophy. I am doing mainly olympic lifts with some hypertrophy stuff thrown in so I look good in the process. I kind of adjust my diet depending on how lean I want to be though. I am a pretty hardcore ecto. Can't get too big though cause I want to stay fast.
02-08-2006, 07:20 PM
Not necessary, SD is already adequately orally bioavailable. Besides, you would have to drink the grapefruit juice a couple of hours before, and the effects can last up to 72hrs.Originally Posted by TrainTilUDrop
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
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