Smartass 
Funny....but sad, too.We all know what's popular: stacking a bunch of them for 8 weeks with 50g protein ED and no PCT after two weeks of training.:blink:
Not to get off topic, but 1-Test is an active hormone, the target hormone of 1-AD.Isn't 1-test a prohormone, i.e. actually banned? This is a poll regarding what's currently available in retail. Otherwise, there might as well be 987,654,321,000 options.
Hey! Its a 'designer steroid', its my favorite, and its not on the list
Aren't you gonna? I mean... Eventually?
Just messing around, back to the thread
I havent tried any of these, but PP looks the most appealing if I felt like going for it.
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They don't??? I was under the impression that since they're the same exact compound, they would work the same?
Probably not...
They are supposed to, that doesn't mean they will.
What facts/evidence do you have to base your statement on?
Interesting about the PP and bloat...
I'm more interested in finding that happy medium between sides and results - That balance of androgenic and anabolic (prone to MPB by the way). Until now, I had been conviced that in terms of orals, OT was the holy grail.
ya bro havent used real tren before but i have run both mtrn and PP and can tell you if you want insane strength awesome recovery, super huge pumps and ok weight gain with acne and small decrease in libido choose MTRNInteresting about the PP and bloat...
I just finished H-50. All I can say is I'm impressed. I would compare it to roughly 30mg/day Dbol (w/out the sides, less pump) or 40mg/day Tbol. It is in fact 50mg of an OT-like precursor (in current batches). That is a pretty hefty dosage. Despite it not converting to estrogen I noticed some slight bloating. It was most notable in my face, especially under my chin/upper neck. By no means did it bloat me by the normal terms we see used. But I didnt have that 100% dry feeling. I was using the very first batch so perhaps this is due to the DMT that was in it. Exactly how much is debatable and depends who you ask. Either way I gained ~10lbs and was pretty shocked how effective it was. The last "prohormone" that tempted me was m4ohn (before the ban) so you can imagine my surprise.
Anyway, PP is DMT. So I suppose one could expect some slight bloating on PP? I have yet to try it myself but I have a bottle. I think I need to wait 4-5 weeks before trying it to fairly judge. Not to mention Im sure my liver would like the break. I think its fair to assume that PP is slightly more androgenic than H-50 - correct? I suppose 30-40mg PP would roughly equate to 1 50mg tab of H-50.
All these methyls... Some people are really going to be doing a number on the old liver. They are effective and fairly cheap. In terms of wise usage vs abuse, I have a bad feeling a lot of people will be sliding into the "abuse" side of the spectrum. It's so tempting/easy to take higher doses or stay on too long. It's also quite alarming to think 15-16 year old kids could be taking this stuff. This new breed of prohormone is no joke. We are talking about designer steroids here. I dont see it lasting long, but who knows.
I'm very curious about this Methoxy-TRN I've seen mention of. I really havent followed the whole prohormone scene until recently. How and why is this associated with Tren in any way? ALRI used to make it but not anymore. For anyone who has used Tren you know its the god of AAS (w/ a test base obviously). What exactly was this compound and did it live up to the hype? Obviously they were trying to convey Tren in a pill.
Bump for more input/experience. Educated, experienced replies based on these products is greatly appreciated. It's nice when users can compare them to real world AAS compounds so some of the more traditional "users" have a way of gauging it. PP seems to be one of the most popular choices besides SD. I'm really not interested in trying SD. It seems too harsh and not even worth it. I've seen too many bad profiles after its use. I'f I was desperate for the absolute most anabolic/androgenic oral compound I would just pop some Jolly Greens!
ya but both compounds are the same just diff isomers of DMT and that means even though mg to mg PP is stronger and cleaner it was the second time your body had that compound and who knows the conditions of both cycyles and the length of time that was between them.... i'll tell you most people favor PP by far to Emax if they ran it a while ago.... who knows i loved PP
Hey Addiction....I have heard a lot of people complain about the sides of SD, which is one reason I have been slow to try it so far. It seems to be much rougher on some than others, though.
Who or whats SJA?
O...someone was already using that avy. That is the one I use over at the IM forums. Some of us made ninja masks...I know, kinda tarded.
Why do you guys always speak of phera phlex being so amazing when most love superdrol way more?
Personally, from my experience
More water retention on PP correct?
The Quote you quoted said less water retention ans increased well being / mood, not lethargy!! PP and Halodrol are said to be lean bulkers where users lose body fat and do not retain water, while increasing vascularity.:study:
The reason I asked about the water retention is because many others are saying that they held more water on PP than on SD. Just wanted an opinion thats all..Thanks for your feedback though.
Hey ive read about what ive said, not from personal experience i think the feedback favours superdrol because the sides although aparent didnt outweigh the gains, most report sides but not many would sacrifice the extra gains for no sides. Most who like PP did not say it was the best for raw gains they said they liked the pos/ neg ratio. I persoanly have ordered halop and pheraplex but many would perfer superdrol. HOpefully i respond favourably like the reports that turned me on to it. Good luck with your choice.:woohoo:
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