To those who have used Phera alone, how long did it take till you felt it working? I`m on the end of day 5 and don`t feel anything yet..maybe spoiled from the fast acting Superdrol...
I haven't taken phera- but if that's you in your avatar...
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Originally Posted by bosco
Yeah dude, that`s mua..and thanks
I think poopy was saying something like it taking a week to fully kick in, you feel "on" in about 3 days and the strength gains and mass gains come about 10 or so days in and keep coming.
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Around a week, however i didn't notice much special wth strength gains until the 3rd week
How much are you taking?
I`m only at 20mg per day (10mg in morn, 10mg at night) for now...I didn`t expect much yet, however I`ve taken SD at 20mg and that was great...so I`m still keeping hope, lol.Originally Posted by motiv8er
At 210lbs I noticed best results at 30mgs a day.
Im on day 7 of PP only at 10 milligrams (I'm doing 10/20/20/30). Haven't had any strength gains really, but I have notice a little fullness in my calves, side delts, traps and bis. Trav, are you seeing any sides at 20 mgs a day?
After a week you should def feel it, keep it at 20 for now, and possibly ramp it up to 30 like the 2nd week, for me i am i pp instant responder, i was tossin weights after 2 days on it, check out my log while stacking it with basic cuts a kick ass stim !!!
I'm instant too...
I felt the very first dose, and it was NOT placebo. I'm certain of this, as I was coming off of 8wks continuous use of eca/various thermos, and had absolutely no crash. Typically, I need at least a full day of sleep when going through stim withdrawal.
The instant energy and strength was remarkable with the first dose of PP. Also, I had ergomax to compare it to (a short cycle this summer), and it was that same good feeling, just faster and stronger, if that makes any sense. Again, I was not expecting a thing with the first dose, so it was incredible to me.
Also, I remember, because of the great feeling of well being and because of the random chills/goosebumps that I was getting during the first few days, thinking to myself that PP must be "spiked" with a low dose of MDMA. Obviously I didn't seriously think this, that's just a reference point for how great I felt.
Originally Posted by Maccabee
No, I don`t feel anything yet, positive nor negative. I was hoping Phera would be good, cause I want to overlap it with Superdrol but if Phera doesn`t work for me, I want to find something that works well with SD.
The most I weighed ever was about 217 (my avatar pic) and that was on some fina and test eating around 5000 cals per day.
The last time I did SD by itself at 30/30/40/40 I got to 215 with not eating really eating right - basically half assed it and got those results.
Im with salv on this one, I gained almost 10 lbs in the first two weeks but didn't really see my strength improve much until about weeks three. I also think that 30mg was the appropriate dose for me, I started at 20mg and bumped up to 30 halfway through week 2. Im 6'3 and started at 225... now im 236... HA!
Personally, I really never had a "kick in". I had a couple of good workouts with some strength gains (mostly legs, for some reason), but not crazy.
I gained 10 lbs, though.
Started getting too much bloat in week 3.
222lbs --> 232lbs. I tried 25mg of RXT but that was not helping.
Overall, I really did not "enjoy" the experience. Let's see what stays in PCT. I am going to really do it right, so we will see what is water / fat.
Give it a week. I hit day 7 of Phera-Plex today and it finally kicked in. I'm taking 30mg per day. I noticed improved fullness and hardness in my entire upper body this morning and had a killer bicep/tricep workout today also.
Has anyone gone over 30mg per day? I am 235 lbs and I'm wondering if I should bump it up to 40mg?
I get the "on" feeling after about the third day. Gains start trickling in about the fifth or sixth day. The bump from 20mg to 30mg is when I started the big gains.
For me I noticed a slight difference after a few days, and the gains started coming along better half way into the second week. I usually seem to respond well taking smaller amounts, so even at my bodyweight I always try the minimum amount first and go from there. This was my first time with Phera-Plex, and my second time with SD which I over-lapped it with for one week. I went PP 10, 20, 20, 10 and SD 10, 20, 20 (6 weeks total). I didn't really "feel" any different while taking the PP but the gains were sure and steady. I weigh about 235 and I'm thinking next time I'll try upping the PP by 10mg and see how that goes. I doubt I'll ever go any higher than 20mg of SD because that's just all I can handle. It took a few more days before I noticed gains with PP than it did for SD, but that is still relatively quick. I'll see what happens next time after increasing it a little.
well three nights ago i bunped it up to 30mg per day, if by the end of the week if don`t feel or see any gains, I`m droppng it and going with SD and maybe some good ole reliable tren, lol.
What seems to be the best dosage schedule?
10/20/20/30 - 4wk
10/10/20/20/20 - 5wk
People seem to say 30mg gives great results. Still, maybe extending it a week longer would help solidify any gains. 4 weeks isnt very long...
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Can anyone comment on the endurance effects of PP at all? Some of the stuff I've read mentions stamina increasing; but I'm curious about people who've actually used it