[MuscleHead1984]

If Peak Performace labs promagnon-25 is the same as Haladrol-50 wouldn't they be selling out of it? Has anyone actually tried or know for a fact if they are the same thing? Thanks guys!

[BHERTZ]

Yes it is the SAME thing, just half the dose. I found it odd that the Gaspari name is not on the P-25, but oh well.

I have read that the P-25 was made in fairly limited quantities and is going for around $80/bottle.

Hope this helps...

[Modoc]

Peak Performance Labs? Where did they come from? They have no web site and I cannot find any info about them at all using Google. How can anyone be sure what exactly is in Promagnon?

[Alpine]

Originally Posted by Modoc

Peak Performance Labs? Where did they come from? They have no web site and I cannot find any info about them at all using Google. How can anyone be sure what exactly is in Promagnon?

Guys, wake up. These seperate brands are just tools to seperate a company from possible "negative" press or associations with certain not so stable products. For instance, selling DMT (former designer steroid) directly to the public (PheraPlex lol). In these cases the company can make money but not tarnish their name/image.

Gaspari is now likely selling under another name. It appears to be the same product but at 25mg instead of 50.

Its just like Designer Supplements and Anabolic Xtreme. Hasnt anyone else noticed this? Its just smart business....

[BHERTZ]

Exactly, don't sweat who makes it....there is a good reason you cant find a website...gaspari is just covering his ass with this "peak performance" label

I just think its funny though, promagnon sounds awfully caveman-ish

[motiv8er]

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[meowmeow]

Originally Posted by Alpine

Its the same product but at 25mg instead of 50 (per request by FDA someone said).

I very much doubt the FDA told them it was okay to sell their "steroid" at 25mg per pill but not 50mg.

[jonny21]

Sounds like a lot of Bullshit and conjecture surrounding this topic. I also doubt the FDA requested a reduced amount of steroid. But, give the sheeple what they want.

edit:
Does not even make sense from a business standpoint. Why re-release Halodrol and this new product at the same time. Something fishy going on here, imo

[BHERTZ]

As far as I can tell (IMO) halodrol is 50mg of a methylated product...that just doesnt seem right. i mean think about it - 50mg of SD or M1T is unheard of.

Gaspari probably realized he was promoting death in a bottle, and decided to phase out H-50 (notice you can only find it for $100+) and introduce P-25 under some weird pseudo name...that way the buzz about H-50 is still alive but in a safer product...let's find some guinea pigs now haha

[turkish]

Originally Posted by BHERTZ

As far as I can tell (IMO) halodrol is 50mg of a methylated product...that just doesnt seem right. i mean think about it - 50mg of SD or M1T is unheard of.

Gaspari probably realized he was promoting death in a bottle, and decided to phase out H-50 (notice you can only find it for $100+) and introduce P-25 under some weird pseudo name...that way the buzz about H-50 is still alive but in a safer product...let's find some guinea pigs now haha

As BK previously stated and Big Cat agreed, H-50 is way less toxic than SD, so your comparison is kinda biased.

[jonny21]

Originally Posted by BHERTZ

As far as I can tell (IMO) halodrol is 50mg of a methylated product...that just doesnt seem right. i mean think about it - 50mg of SD or M1T is unheard of.

Gaspari probably realized he was promoting death in a bottle, and decided to phase out H-50 (notice you can only find it for $100+) and introduce P-25 under some weird pseudo name...that way the buzz about H-50 is still alive but in a safer product...let's find some guinea pigs now haha

Halodrol not Promagnon is on presale @ board sponsors now for <$100 if I am not mistaken. What's the difference between taking 2-25mg tabs or 1-50mg tabs? The halodrol tabs were scored for easy splitting. I think the logic regarding the decrease in dosage is off a bit. And by the way, taking 50mg of methylated AAS is commonplace.

[Alpine]

Originally Posted by meowmeow

I very much doubt the FDA told them it was okay to sell their "steroid" at 25mg per pill but not 50mg.

I agree, and that much would seem quite obvous. I was basically referring to a post by sly on the subject.

Promagnon-25 by Gaspari
Just like Halodrol-50 only half the dosage (Due to the FDA!)
Not too much info on this one yet... Gaspari is telling us that Promagnon-25 is the exact same thing as Halodrol-50 only in half the dosage as to comply with the FDA.

New lower dosage Halodrol?

[Alpine]

Originally Posted by BHERTZ

As far as I can tell (IMO) halodrol is 50mg of a methylated product...that just doesnt seem right. i mean think about it - 50mg of SD or M1T is unheard of.

Gaspari probably realized he was promoting death in a bottle, and decided to phase out H-50 (notice you can only find it for $100+) and introduce P-25 under some weird pseudo name...that way the buzz about H-50 is still alive but in a safer product...let's find some guinea pigs now haha

Ya, youre way off. The main reason he pulled the product was all the negative press and articles (Washington Post) regarding H-50. It got a lot of bad attention right out of the gate. It has nothing to do with the saftey. This is basically OT. SD would be far worse in terms of sides from what I have seen and from what other better qualified "gurus" have said regarding it. The naming Gaspari chose has really given some folks a bad (misguided) impression of this product. This could be another factor that led to the new product design.

[BHERTZ]

Since when is 50mg of any oral, methylated product "commonplace"? i.e. - the threads about people getting jaundice and hospital treatment after they took just 40mg of SD for a full cycle. Just curious...

[BHERTZ]

I do agree though, H-50 got dumped on right off the bat by the press. We all read the stories.

Let's just hope P-25 makes up for his lost sales...I am curious as to what's behind the FDA comment though that was released.

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by BHERTZ

Since when is 50mg of any oral, methylated product "commonplace"? i.e. - the threads about people getting jaundice and hospital treatment after they took just 40mg of SD for a full cycle. Just curious...

Ive taken up to 40mgs of SD and never had any problems. You also have no case when you say 50mgs for a methylated product is not commonplace because MDHT can be dosed very high. I used it a 100mgs as did Glenihan i beleive. What about M1,4add? People and i myself have used upwords of 230 or more mgs. Thats WAAYYY over 50mgs. Also Oral Turinabol is not as harsh on the liver as M1T or SD, and i bet some people will use HD-50 at 100mgs or so to test it out.

No offense but ur post is not of good info as ur way off base bro. Not trying to be a **** just stating some facts.

[BHERTZ]

None taken....just trying to pry info out of you guys, and I stand corrected. However, I would never take 50mg of M1T, I have always limited it to 15mg in past cycles. If this is too cautious just say so...Anyway wasn't this thread about P-25? haha