Tren Xtreme.. ever heard?
- 12-10-2005, 06:07 PM
Tren Xtreme.. ever heard?
Just got a bottle of this stuff from this pretty respectable place in Cali. Stuff is called Tren Xtreme. It's made by American Cellular Labs (never heard of it in my life) said it's made with Trenbol ...
from website: " As a progestin, Trenobol does not aromatize to estrogen, because Tren-Xtreme does not aromatize, it also minimizes water retention (good hardener), and makes for good strength gains. Due to non-aromatization to estrogens, there is a lower potential for HPTA inhibition from use. Tren-Xtreme is also 5-alpha-reduced analog which prevents conversion to DHT. Research suggest that Tren-Xtreme has a half-life of about 6 hours, though it appears that it is closer to 10 hours based upon plasma levels maintained in our test subjects"
the guy at the store i got it at said i don't need to take an estrogen blocker during off cycle. and this stuff doesn't have nasty side effects that i'd get from taking prohormones or legal roids.
is the website and the store tellin the truth?
i'll be using it in conjunction with superpump 250
any input would be greatly helpful before i make huge mistakes and endup a with acne, a small dick and/or impotence, tits, and depression.
- 12-10-2005, 06:21 PM
- 12-10-2005, 06:25 PM
12-10-2005, 06:35 PM
no more website
finigenx magnum... so then that means i'm also gonna hafta get an estro blocker during off cycles?
02-03-2006, 04:32 PM
It works and works WELL. Don't think you can get away without any PCT. No real sides except a bit of a higher BP, but not much.
It's the same as Trenobol just 5mg more a dose.
PCT I use RXT and Alpha Male.
02-03-2006, 04:36 PM
02-04-2006, 03:13 PM
02-04-2006, 04:48 PM
drinking on any oral ph will do more than bloat you. how bout kill you? more appropriate.Originally Posted by Rockscar
02-05-2006, 12:27 AM
02-05-2006, 01:34 AM
02-05-2006, 05:13 AM
i am curious as to where you bought this in cali. I used to work at max muscle in central cali and that particular product you are talking about has switched companies 4 times. my boss kept giving me some bull**** excuse to why it was happening but it wasnt hard to know that it was just because they were catching on to these companies. then i saw that PharmaGenX came out with them and its no shock that they are being looked into now as well. its good stuff but be carefull with it because when i tried it it absolutely killed my sex drive for a couple months (even when i came off) and that was when it was 25mgs.Originally Posted by addijhaq
02-05-2006, 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by doom3q
Thanks for your wizdom and informative post. PCT on Trenobol does not require a SERM. Have you ever used Trenobol?
02-05-2006, 03:41 PM
02-05-2006, 03:59 PM
Although methylation can cause a potentially liver toxic substance to be even more toxic, it is not the sole cause for something to be liver toxic.Originally Posted by mywetnightmares
Methylating a safe molecule won't make it liver toxic by default.
02-05-2006, 04:02 PM
Little overexaggerated there. There is a potential to really screw up your liver if you go overboard, but you won't die by default.Originally Posted by canadian champ
I'm not advocating drinking alcohol on a cycle, but if you're aware of the risks and have self control (i.e. not binge drinking every week), then you can limit the possibility. But, like sex, the best way for prevention is to just stop altogether, hehe.
02-05-2006, 05:16 PM
Of course I was exaggerating. I simply found it amusing that the only suggested negative to drinking on 17aa was bloat. Ridiculous.Originally Posted by shaorinor
02-05-2006, 05:28 PM
As a general rule SERMs should always be kept on hand in case gyno pops up, and SERMs should be a part of pct.
02-05-2006, 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by canadian champ
Well, for me, that happened. I was not going into a list of sides anyway. I learned the lesson.
02-06-2006, 12:43 PM
02-06-2006, 12:48 PM
I'm going to go 5-6 weeks at 90 MG per day each dose morning, afternoon and night. You can go up to 8 weeks.Originally Posted by anabolicgiraffe
For PCT I use a e-blocker and test booster for 4-6 weeks.
Keep a good diet and food log and you should get some incredible results.
02-06-2006, 09:56 PM
sorry for the criticism, but your first post here was giving wrong advice.Originally Posted by Rockscar
I don't know enough about trenobol to know if it needs a SERM or not but I do know it's ALWAYS BEST to use a SERM in any pct, or atleast have on hand.
As far as the bloat, trenobol does not aromatize, therefore no estrogen, therefore no bloat.
02-07-2006, 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by doom3q
I've stacked Tren with M1P and Max LMG before and it does bloat me if I drink. Only did that for 1 cycle and don't drink but 2 beers on the weekend as a practice anymore.
I guess Nolva is always good to have onhand, but Tren alone has never given me issues to where I've needed it.
I've used this PH, which I believe to be quite safe under guidance of a VERY experienced Bodybuilder, and after a couple years, I fully trust him.
Agreed that Nolva should always be around when using any PH or AAS.
04-15-2008, 11:39 PM
ok i am 16 years old. would anybody not recomend for me to take tren hardor 2? i know a bunch of my friends have takin it and now they are all 10x bigger than me but i am the one worried about my body in side effects and the long run. any suggestions???
04-15-2008, 11:51 PM
And your friends will be fuc!ed up for life too there buddy. Wait until your AT LEAST over 21 but my recommendation as always is 25+
04-15-2008, 11:58 PM
wat u mean ****ed up? like wat will happen? like testosterone drop and stuff like that? wat wud anyone recomend for me cus i wana get atleast close to them...im way weaker than them now...sucks.
04-16-2008, 12:57 AM
VO2 Max = 58.75mL/kg/min
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04-16-2008, 06:54 PM
thanks a lot heebs u changed my whole vision toward tren haha now ill jus tell my friends that wen they brag to me how much stronger they are.
04-20-2008, 11:34 AM
I've also heard that if you us PH at a young age (18) your gains later (in life) will not be the same as if you had used at an appropriate age. is this true?
03-03-2009, 09:41 PM
Sorry for the thread jack. Back on topic.......
03-03-2009, 09:52 PM
make sure if you do the cycle you do it correctly with all the blockers and preventives the whole cycle will probably cost around 300
03-03-2009, 10:11 PM
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03-04-2009, 09:58 AM
03-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Your ignorance is keeping you from getting the point...
Most guys don't like to open up a thread at the top of the days page to find out some tool dug up a four year old thread...
It annoys the hell outta me, I don't need a nap.. I need you to get a clue, that I do care about very much.. I think there is hope for you, all you gotta do is take some self responsibilty and not try to blame me... that's the first step to pulling your head outta your ass before you suffocate.. I'm pullin for you, no pun intended..
03-04-2009, 11:45 AM
If you really want to make good gains that you're going to keep stay away from PH/PS/AAS, and stick with a good whey protein, BCAAs, creatine, and maybe a natural test booster like Activate Xtreme (but at your age it would prolly be a waste of $). I personally recommend AAEFX kre-alkalyn and Ergopharm Mass Meal to any high school kids that consult with me. I've seen high school athletes simply blow up on these products, and they're 100% safe.
As for worrying about what your friends are doing, DONT! (A lot of my friends in high school that i played football with used steroids and i never even supplemented with whey protein untill i was 17, but everyone thought i was the one on steroids because i knew how to train and diet properly.) Get yourself some reading materials and make sure your diet and training are on point. You're going to be healthier in the long run, and you'll still be gaining while they are plateuing from improper diet, training, and supplemenatation.
03-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Change your tampon and chill the fck out.
03-26-2009, 05:17 AM
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03-28-2009, 09:33 PM
speaking of Tren xtreme by ACL...was thinking of ruinning it for 4 weeks, AI cycle support and Novedex afterwards. any advice?
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