My Pheraplex vs SD cycle

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  1. My Pheraplex vs SD cycle


    Thought I would also give an update on my Pheraplex cycle.

    Just finished day 7.

    In comparison to SD? Well as I've posted on here before, I had trouble puting much weight on SD, and what I did put on went to my waist.

    So far on PP, put on 4.18lbs! AND, no bloat. I'm sure a little has gone to my waist, but not much. Another interesting fact is that during SD I did no cardio. With PP I'm do sprints on one day, and play soccer on another.

    The strength gains haven't come in yet though

    Side effects? A bit oily, BUT have no felt run down or anything as I was on SD.

    PP so far blows SD out of the water for me.

    Oh, I'm running 20,20,30,30.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by salv
    Thought I would also give an update on my Pheraplex cycle.

    Just finished day 7.

    In comparison to SD? Well as I've posted on here before, I had trouble puting much weight on SD, and what I did put on went to my waist.

    So far on PP, put on 4.18lbs! AND, no bloat. I'm sure a little has gone to my waist, but not much. Another interesting fact is that during SD I did no cardio. With PP I'm do sprints on one day, and play soccer on another.

    The strength gains haven't come in yet though

    Side effects? A bit oily, BUT have no felt run down or anything as I was on SD.

    PP so far blows SD out of the water for me.

    Oh, I'm running 20,20,30,30.
    Great, keep me(us) updated. I noticed my strength increases starting week2. I also seem to favor PP over SD, reason is the side-effects.
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  3. After trying and not really liking SD, I had been told that PP would probably work much better. So far so good.

    It's now day 9 and I'm up 6.16lbs. Ate lots over the weekend, and not too cleanly either. Yet waist did not expand as I had expected.

  4. End of day 14.

    Weight is up 8.4lbs. Two weeks to go.

    Have already exceeded the weight I put on in my whole 4 weeks of SD.

    Some of the weight gain has gone to the waist, but most I would say has gone to the muscles. I wil take measurements tomorrow. Certainly, legs, arms, shoulders, chest and traps look bigger.

  5. I think it is time to get some money together and order some PP before it's gone.
    I am reading just to much good stuff about this product.
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  6. The funny thing about PP is that DS didn't seem to think too much of it in the beginning. They said it would be good, but expected harsher sides and I think less anabolism.

  7. just some notes:

    Mood - Feeling quite drained and tired whlst on SD. Feeling just fine on PP.

    Libido: Just as good on both, and just as big loads with both

    Strength: Yet to noticed anything major with PP. this was definitely better on SD. Still, there's 2 weeks left to go.

    BW: As mentioned, for me PP blows SD out of the water. What is striking is that I'm actually doing cardio (sprints and soccer) with PP, did none with SD, but with PP am set to double the weight I put on with SD! Could someone please explain this to me????

  8. Ok measurement time....

    After 2 weeks,

    Biceps: up 0.5cm (have done no direct arm work)
    Legs: up 1.5cm
    Chest: up 2cm
    Waist: up 2cm. No surprises here as i have noticed my waist expand some.

  9. tell me about it

    as u can see though, Im not making any claims that it's been done without fat gain

  10. Update time

    Day 17

    BW is up 9.9lbs.to put this in to context I only gained about 7lbs for the total 4 weeks for SD. Im actually 1.3lbs behind target, as Im trying to add on average 0.66lbs per day. So Im 2 days behind.

    Also, with SD at 7lbs, I had to loosen by belt by one notch. Still fine on PP. So although my waist has expanded, a good chunk of BW gain is going to the muscles.

    Have developed a fair bit of a cold the last cpl of days since I upped to 3 caps per day.

    I believe the strength bit is finally kicking in.

  11. how's that cardio going? i had amazing increases in cardio when i used it for 3 weeks. earlier this year.

  12. Cardios going fine, although I have felt my lower back tighten up after sprints. Good thing is that the cardio isnt hampering my bulk, just limiting fat gain.

  13. Im a little curious as to what people are experiencing in strength. Im on day 10 at 20mg and I'm looking leaner and meaner than ever. Yet I have had almost zero strength gains?

  14. As I mention above.SD for me was better for strengthbut I have finally noticed the strength kicking in with PP.

  15. Strength is def kicking in now...

    Tonight's overhead press with oly bar, 3 reps at 80kg (176lbs). Best pressing ever. This was after struggling to get 2 reps last week at 79kg.

    Squat (deep and without belt) for 3 reps at 332lbs. Just shy of my 336lb best for 3...HOWEVER, that then was only going just under parallel.

    Finished it up with some light power cleans (8x3) @ 150lbs, 1 minute break between sets.

  16. Sounds great so far, I have some PP and am really getting anxious to try, keep updates coming...

  17. oh and after day 19, BW is up to 11lbs

  18. Quote Originally Posted by salv
    BW: As mentioned, for me PP blows SD out of the water. What is striking is that I'm actually doing cardio (sprints and soccer) with PP, did none with SD, but with PP am set to double the weight I put on with SD! Could someone please explain this to me????
    good log, Superdrol is a drier compound than Phera-plex thus you will see nearly all LEAN MASS gains with SD (provided your diet is on spot). Phera-plex is not totally wet but it is a Mass Builder. You'll see actually what you did gain in post cycle.

    I started PP two days ago and I'm feeling like total crap... Is this the Phera-plex? Or just a winter head cold?
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  19. I gained nearly all fat on my SD cycle. My bulk certainly wasn't totally clean, but nor was it bad either.

    It's been a very different story with PP.

    Ur feeling like crap from PP? ur the first I've heard! Hopefulyl it's just a cold.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59
    I started PP two days ago and I'm feeling like total crap... Is this the Phera-plex? Or just a winter head cold?
    I'm on week 3 of my PP cycle. The first week I felt like complete ****, total lethargy. During the second week it went away.
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  21. Same here, first week I felt a little "off" and even got sick after a couple heavy workouts... for some reason or another. Im now on day 13 and feeling just fine. Up 10 pounds and still crossing my fingers and waiting for any strength gains.

  22. I was so tired the first week I actually missed 2 workouts. I'm still up 6lbs. though and haven't had a dramtic change in my diet.
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  23. ya guys that was probally the only side i experienced as well but i had attributed it to the prostaan since many others have mentioned that prostan causes huge sleepiness, end of week one into week 2 for about 5 days i would be absolutely dead tired mid day but workouts were still insane. it came and went quick for me but this is the first ive heard of any cold like symptoms appearing. try roughing it out for a couple days hopefully it'll blow over quickly so you can start the enjoyment. by the way are you taking this alone, as part of a stack or just a booster for a longer inj. cycle?

  24. 3 days to go and Im up to 15.18lbs

  25. sounds like it would be better to run SD first and follow up with PP with maybe a week of them overlapping. anyone think this is a good idea? AX recommends to stack the two compounds the opposite way and ive never seen a review or log with SD then PP.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by WannaBeHulk
    sounds like it would be better to run SD first and follow up with PP with maybe a week of them overlapping. anyone think this is a good idea? AX recommends to stack the two compounds the opposite way and ive never seen a review or log with SD then PP.
    do it and tell us how it works.
  27. Exclamation FINAL RESULTS!


    Final Results

    Suffice to say that I have been amazingly surprised by the results over these past 4 weeks.

    BW up 16.72 lbs from 154.22lbs to 170.94lbs

    Biceps up 0.79inches (2cm)
    Legs up 1.77inches (4.5cm)
    Chest up 1.77inches (4.5cm)
    Waist up 1.57inches (4cm)

    Im not sure what the split is between muscle/fat/water gains. But what I can say is that I look a lot bigger and everyone I know has been saying Ive grown heaps, in terms of muscle. My wife had not noticed I had put on around the waist and just reckons its all muscle. I beg to differ as my waist has expanded some. Apart from increased measurements, my traps and shoulders have also grown, however I dont measure these.

    My gains on PP where more than double what I got on SD, despite actually doing cardio on PP 2x per week.

    Also, Im not sure it was worth going up to 30mg for 2 weeks, given my BW increase was roughly the same as my 2 weeks on 20mg.

    Supps used whilst on cycle

    R-ALA
    Saw Palmetto
    SesaThin
    Milk Thistle
    Red Yeast Rice
    Multi
    Flax seed
    Extend
    Taurine
    Cissus RX

    My diet throughout wasnt too bad at all. I didnt just eat everything site, but did eat a bit of ice cream and chocolates when I normally wouldnt. but other than that it was pretty good.

    Training was done 3x per week (full body work outs every time). Cardio consisted of 1 day where I did sprints, the other I plated soccer.

    Mood/Energy
    I felt very good on PP compared to SD. With SD I developed a cold almost asap, I was irritable, lethargic and tired. I was however more aggressive with PP.

    Strength
    Strength gains on PP finally kicked in at the beginning of my 3rd week, whereas these were noticed earlier with SD and were stronger with SD. I finally reached some new PBs on the overhead press and squats.

    Libido
    I would say that libido was slightly stronger on SD than on PP.

    Fat Gain
    Most of my gains on SD were fat/water. On PP, I more than doubled my BW gains compared to SD, however I would say % fat/water gains.

    Now onto PCT.

    For the next 4 weeks Ill be using

    T-drive
    PowerFULL
    Cre-Ethyl Thunder
    Matrix-Abs (with 7-OXO) I wont get this for another week or 2
    SesaThin/SesaLean
    SuperCarb - I won't get this for another week

    Training will remain the same as on cycle.

    I will update in 4 weeks time.






  28. Quote Originally Posted by salv
    Final Results

    Suffice to say that I have been amazingly surprised by the results over these past 4 weeks.

    BW up 16.72 lbs from 154.22lbs to 170.94lbs

    Biceps up 0.79inches (2cm)
    Legs up 1.77inches (4.5cm)
    Chest up 1.77inches (4.5cm)
    Waist up 1.57inches (4cm)

    Im not sure what the split is between muscle/fat/water gains. But what I can say is that I look a lot bigger and everyone I know has been saying Ive grown heaps, in terms of muscle. My wife had not noticed I had put on around the waist and just reckons its all muscle. I beg to differ as my waist has expanded some. Apart from increased measurements, my traps and shoulders have also grown, however I dont measure these.

    My gains on PP where more than double what I got on SD, despite actually doing cardio on PP 2x per week.

    Also, Im not sure it was worth going up to 30mg for 2 weeks, given my BW increase was roughly the same as my 2 weeks on 20mg.

    Supps used whilst on cycle

    R-ALA
    Saw Palmetto
    SesaThin
    Milk Thistle
    Red Yeast Rice
    Multi
    Flax seed
    Extend
    Taurine
    Cissus RX

    My diet throughout wasnt too bad at all. I didnt just eat everything site, but did eat a bit of ice cream and chocolates when I normally wouldnt. but other than that it was pretty good.

    Training was done 3x per week (full body work outs every time). Cardio consisted of 1 day where I did sprints, the other I plated soccer.

    Mood/Energy
    I felt very good on PP compared to SD. With SD I developed a cold almost asap, I was irritable, lethargic and tired. I was however more aggressive with PP.

    Strength
    Strength gains on PP finally kicked in at the beginning of my 3rd week, whereas these were noticed earlier with SD and were stronger with SD. I finally reached some new PBs on the overhead press and squats.

    Libido
    I would say that libido was slightly stronger on SD than on PP.

    Fat Gain
    Most of my gains on SD were fat/water. On PP, I more than doubled my BW gains compared to SD, however I would say % fat/water gains.

    Now onto PCT.

    For the next 4 weeks Ill be using

    T-drive
    PowerFULL
    Cre-Ethyl Thunder
    Matrix-Abs (with 7-OXO) I wont get this for another week or 2
    SesaThin/SesaLean
    SuperCarb - I won't get this for another week

    Training will remain the same as on cycle.

    I will update in 4 weeks time.




    Um.......are you going to run nolva, atd, clomid or something like that for PCT?

  29. ummm...no

    T-Drive is the same as Rebound, and PowerFULL takes care of the libido. I ran the exact same PCT after SD without a problem...and SD has stronger side effects.
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