Upcoming bulk, suggestions welcome!! SD-Prostanz
- 11-17-2005, 10:03 AM
Upcoming bulk, suggestions welcome!! SD-Prostanz
I have been on the fence about this and have finally figured out what route I want to take. Here is some background first, then to the details.
I ran a solo SD cycle for 3 weeks doing 10mg for the first 8 days or so the up to 20mg for the remaining13 days. Had some great strength gains as well as good size in that amoung of time. The overall weight was 13 lbs. of lean dry mass. I ran ultra hotter for 4 weeks pct along with fenu and thistle, dhea. One week after pct was complete I injured my right bi and took about 6 weeks of light lifting and cardio just to try to maintain. Well here I am, ready to do it again. I am 26 yrs old, 5'9 and weigh around 192 average.
WK1- 20mgs SD
WK2- 20mgs SD
WK3- 100mgs Prostanzanol
WK4- 100mgs Prostanzanol
WK1- Rebound XT 75 mgs
WK2-3 Rebound XT 50mgs
WK4- Rebound XT 25mgs
I do have some nolva on hand but no going to use unless needed. I will continue using all side supps atleast 6 weeks past PCT. Then I will cut out the Garlic, RRY, and Taurine.
I have already started taking the side supplements which are:
Will be picking up some
I was also thinking of running the Prastanzanol starting in the second week and then through the 4th at the 100mgs. Not sure, looking for some feedback on that. The reason why I donw want to run the SD for any longer are for work related. I work heavy labor and dont need those intense back pumps. I only noticed them about 17 days into the cycle. They lasted awhile afterwords but If I cut it a little short it will be better on my liver and my back.
Also, does anyone think that I shold start the rebound after the SD and continue it throughout the cycle and into PCT or just wait until I am done with the Prostanzanol?
Suggestions welcome, that is why I come here. Thanks, Drew
- 11-17-2005, 07:08 PM
11-17-2005, 07:28 PM
looks fine to me. Actually, I'd probably go with 3 weeks of SD followed by 4-5 weeks of Prost if I ran these 2 in this way.
11-17-2005, 08:16 PM
11-18-2005, 08:16 AM
Yeah, I know that 3 weeks of SD would produce alot more gains but the back pumps I was getting were just to much while trying to work heavy labor. I think 2 weeks will atleast let me get about 7 lbs or so. I ended up getting most of my gains after the cycle was over. So there are no serious drawbacks to running SD then Prostanzanol? I am really looking forward to this. I think I will run the Prostanzanol for three weeks at 100mg ed or more if no results shown.
11-19-2005, 01:10 PM
11-19-2005, 01:24 PM
Did it for a cut in the summer. worked well. Wish I knew earlier, would have taken Prostanazol with my EVOO to help avoid first pass liver deactivation.Originally Posted by revodrew
11-19-2005, 05:57 PM
Jonny, can you explain that in depth as I think I may be a little confused. What dosage did you run at. Did you run the prostanazol with the SD or after. Thanks!
11-19-2005, 07:20 PM
I had good results with prostanazol at the end of a 3 week SD cycle. 75mg/day, but I did not experience any noticeable strength gains or muscle "hardness' that reportedly comes from winstrol. I did experience a repartitioning effect. I lost BF with very minimal LBM loss, if any.
I remember after using it reading that it was ideal to take with fatty meal since it is not 17-a-methyl and high % will be deactivated in first pass in the liver. The point of taking with a fatty meal is that it will be dispersed via lymphatic system.
11-19-2005, 09:01 PM
Alright, thanks for breaking it down barney style for me. So its not when you take it but rather what you take it with. thanks man!
11-19-2005, 10:43 PM
Nasal administration would work, for efficiency's sake, right? The fillers are really tame : rice flour, magnesium stearate... It would be good to know, since these are all on their last run... Wanna stretch me prostanozol...
11-20-2005, 08:07 AM
11-21-2005, 12:27 PM
I;m planning on running an SD cyle of 20/20/30 with prostanz of 75/100/100. Im pretty big (225) so i figure im not overdoing it with the dosage..any thoughts or tips anyone?
11-21-2005, 12:33 PM
my bad for not reading the whole thread. i read the suggestion of taking SD and following up with Prostanz....is there a greater advantage to this...other than it being easier on the liver? I was worried about being shutdown for that long so i figured running them at the same time would reduce the total shutdown time and PCT would be a little easier. not sure...i'm more than open to suuggestions.....oh yeah totally sorry about the hijacking but everytime i try to open a new thread it gets closed...so i searched and here i am. thanks again
11-21-2005, 01:30 PM
Dont worry about it. If you could please post a little more info on yourself such as past cycle experiance and diet plans. 20/20/30 is going to be kind of harsh and at 225 I am not totally convinced that you need all that. If you are going to bump dosage to a higher level I would do the prostanzanol to start at 100 and take that from there. See what works for you.Originally Posted by kjkriston
11-21-2005, 01:56 PM
OK..more info...about 1 1/2 ago i started with PH like a cycle of 1AD with great success, MAG-10 was garbage for me, and a cycle of 4-ad with great success. about 3 months later i went to the "dark side" with a cycle of Deca and put on a bout 25 lbs in a 6 week cycle. Then i got married, lazy, and lost everything. Ive been lifting heavy since then and have managed to get alot back naturally. My BF% is a little high (16%) so i wanted to add the Prostanz for a cutting effect. There ya go. BTW
I'm 6'0" 225 lbs 24 yeard old......open to any and all suggestions.
11-21-2005, 03:39 PM
On the SD thing about 20/20/30 being harsh, it all depends on how you react, some people gain like mad men at 10 and even 20 mgs. Me i cant use anyhting under 30 and i weigh about 195 lbs.
Now i am a person that needs higher dosages for some reason. SD tho at 20mgs i didnt even get a pump at, 30 and 40 mgs tho weight just rolls on in. But at that level of toxicity i honestly dont think its worth the risk.
3 weeks isnt bad at that rate, but i figured if i can run somethin longer and at same close to the rec dosage why not go with that.
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11-21-2005, 03:45 PM
So, wht your saying is a better idea would be like 10/20/ and see how it goes from there? I guess thats probably the smartest route to test my body, i just figured my weight would be an issue like it is for alot of supps i take. but ill heed your warning and start out at 10 to see how it goes. i havent even recieved my bottle yet so itll be a week before i can start my cycle. BTW I was advised to take cranberry pills with this cycle with no further explaination...anyone know anything about that? I know there good for kidneys but with the milk thistle and hawthornberry i thought id be cool, but he said he highly recommended cranberry, and hes got WAY more experience than me so i bought some.....anyon else take them?
11-21-2005, 03:53 PM
Well at ur weight you probly will need more. Id honestly say start out at 20 and see how it goes, if things are goin fine then keep it there if not and you feel the need to up the dosage then so be it.Originally Posted by kjkriston
As far as the cranberry thing goes it probly couldnt hurt honestly, i havnt incorporated it into my PCT regimen. Just the usual milk thistle and the like. Good luck bro and keep us updated.
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11-21-2005, 04:06 PM
Most def. keep you updated. Really appreciate the advice. God knows we could all use some, too many people don't think so though. I think I will start at 20 and see how my body reacts. The 1AD took a higher dosage for me to see results ..same with the 4-AD, i think the reason the mag10 didnt do **** is cuz i followed the dosage on the bottle which looking back was probably low....anyway, thanks for the support. ill definetly keep somewhat of a log going, but Im currently in IRAQ so my computer time is very limited, so ill post as often as possible.
11-21-2005, 04:13 PM
oh yeah, speaking of being in IRAQ. My diet is somewhat limited. I can do potatoes, pasta, and some oatmeal. but i usually get chicken beef, sometime pork. i eat a ton of tuna, drink my shakes (ON protien). But stuff like whole grain bread, and getting alot of meals in is kinda hard. Im gonna try my hardest to be as strict as possible to my diet. any recommendations that I should for sure try to intake. I also have a ton of assorted nuts, peanut butter,
11-21-2005, 04:19 PM
HOLY ****, THAT WAS LIKE AN OCTILLION POST. DELETE A COUPLE OF THOSE IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT. I wasnt trying to deteer you from taking the 30 mgs a day, if you need it, but I wouldnt say, I am gonna take 30 at week three cause you may not need. At 10mgs I got pretty much nothing, at 20mgs, it was almost to much, the back pumps were insane. that is why I am going for 2 weeks VS the normal 3 that you will usally see. Everyone is differant. If 20 isnt giving you the gains that you expect, bump to 30 and see how you feel. Just out of curiosity, if you are in Iraq, how do you plan on getting a blood test post cycle? I was there for 8 months and the only people who got to see the corpsman were the ones who were all F'd up. Good luck and keep your head down. Looking forward to following your progress here in this thread. Please feel free to make a daily log along with I.
11-21-2005, 04:21 PM
11-21-2005, 04:33 PM
WTF just happened? my computer just frozen and then there was like 2000000 posts from me...well i got them deleted anyway...bloodwork...got a very good freind whos a corpman thatll do it for me on the DL. sorry for the multiple retarded posts....not sure what happened. appreciate the recs...ill keep everyone posted
11-21-2005, 04:37 PM
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