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Tren alternative delivery methods

CRUNCH

CRUNCH

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My first post here so go easy on me!

My question is on tren and alternate delivery methods: nasal, sublingual, and sub-q.

Before anyone replies with “do a search”, I have, extensively. I have typed in every concievable mix of the following words: tren, fina, nasal, sublingual, sub-q, and finaplix into google and gotten a lot of info from many sites and boards. Just not a lot of what I’m looking for.

Here’s what I do know:
  • Acetone or HEET to separate out the binders and glue.
  • Mixed with cyclodextrin (specifically HPBCD), 18 grams worth mixed with 80 ml of sterile water and 2 grams of steroid to get a 25mg/ml mix, which seems to be optimal.
  • I’ve read about the transdermal methods by combining the tren with androsol/nandrosol or the old dmso method (no thanks…smells to bad)
  • I do have the articles by Markus Fitzgerald and Bill Roberts, the Trenbolone Nasal Spray article by Par Deus, and the Alternative Steroid Delivery Systems article by Dazed, all great reads.
  • I do know that many have gotten good results from the nasal and sublingual application when mixed with stuff like 4-AD and 1-test.
  • The prefered method of taking tren is IM, and in combination with other anabolics, specifically test.
  • Milk thistle and cranberry extract to help out the kidneys and liver.
  • Gyno has never been a problem for me and my hair is in no danger of falling out.
What I haven’t found are many people that have tried this (nasal, sublingual, or subq) with tren, if any. A few have, but they were mixing with several other compounds. Everything says it should work great, but not many seem to have tried.

I am mildly curious about trying one of these methods and taking the tren on it’s own. I would do this by itself simply because I want to know how much gains I’m getting from the tren and this method without wondering how much is from something else. And it would be a short cycle, something around 6 weeks of 75 mg ed either nasal with a metered pump bottle or subq with an insulin syringe.

For arguments sake, assume I know how to train and eat and I’ve been clean for a couple years.
 
I've read where Dr. Shippen (a well known TRT doc) has advocated sub-q injections of enan/cyp for his patients with good results. his claim is that you get less aromatization from sub-q. It's also supposed to burn a little at the site...

I recall reading on the old gotFina board where a guy tried nasal delivery and said that it burned so bad he couldn't do a second dose.
 
Thanks for the reply SIK.

I do remember reading that same post. Years ago, my lifting buddy and I had snorted quite a bit of fina. I can't imagine it burning worse than that. We didn't know any better (or care?), this was before the old MM2K was even talking about fina. They had some goof talking about it...cattleman or cowman, something like that. The articles were pretty funny.

I am leaning toward the nasal route as the cyclodextrin may not be sterile.

If nobody has any experience, I'll post everything I do and the results I'm getting.
 
To add to the list of crazy ideas- right next to snorting - you could use the pellets as a suppository. I know the absorption would be really high(~100%). NEVER (ever)tried this, but read about it long long time ago on the Fina board.....hmmmmm
I wonder if it would burn?! :jaw:
 
Hmmm...my fiance is pretty kinky, but even this may push her boundaries!

LMAO BIOMAN! Thanks for telling me about this board too! If everybody else here starts getting sick of me, they'll have you to blame!
 
Nah, you're a good risk, and since you can squash me like a bug..I'll post nothing but glowing comments about you in case I come MN again:stick:



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Cool...glowing comments!! And you're always welcome back in here in my frozen world!

As for the tren...I can't take it anymore. All of a sudden I'm dying to try a cycle again.

I ordered some Component T-H (4 grams is always better than 2), a new mortar & pestle, some metered nasal type spray bottles (1 ml per pump), and some HPBCD. Still need to decide the method of getting the tren and cyclodextrin together, but have a few days to figure it out. I'll give more deets later.
 
You're gonna have to get the fina as a powder first... here the best way i've seen it done.

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Was planning on getting the powder one of these ways from Dazed's article at Avant Labs:

Method1
For the first method we will formulate it for a total of 2g of steroid.
Dissolve 18g of HPBCD in 80ml saline in a beaker on a stir plate. Once this is dissolved, slowly add the 2g of steroid over about 5 minutes. Let this stir overnight. Filter out any insoluble particles. This provides a 25mg/ml solution.

Method 2
For the second method, we will formulate it for 1g of steroid.
Triturate (mix in a mortar with a pestle) 9g HPBCD with 1g steroid. Place this in a high humidity environment for 2-4 days. I have used a covered fish tank with water in the bottom, but anything that can create a humid environment will work. A syrup will form, and this is dissolved in 40ml saline and you have a 25mg/ml solution.

Method 3
For the third method, we will formulate for 4g of steroid.
Triturate 36g of HPBCD with 4g steroid. Let this sit at normal room temperature and humidity for a week. Complexation will occur, but takes time with this process Dissolve the powder in 160ml saline. This again makes a 25mg/ml solution.
 
Sounds FUN! Kinda had a feeling it would be like that.

Try some T gel or some Penetrate Crunch..they don't stink like DMSO anymore. In fact I kinda like the limey fragrance.
 
Klaus, I'm considering trying Dazed second method to make sublingual halotestin. Using this formula, 1g of fluoxymesterone will give me 25mg per ml. (total of 40ml). What I'd like to know is how this method of absorption would compare to swallowing a capsule containing 25mg of fluoxymesterone? Obviously the sublingual method is far less hepatoxic, however, would it offer the same androgenic benefits and therefore the same gains as the oral route?
Thanks.
 
sikdogg said:
I've read where Dr. Shippen (a well known TRT doc) has advocated sub-q injections of enan/cyp for his patients with good results. his claim is that you get less aromatization from sub-q. It's also supposed to burn a little at the site....
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Have any links or evidence on this?
 
Damn KLAUS...wrecking all my potential fun! I have snorted lines of fina before and that was tollerable, especially after all the gains started. Thanks for the warnings though, I still want to try it with the cyclodextrin. Something to do with curiousity and a cat.

BIO...I've read up pretty good on the transdermal methods. The nasal delivery seems to have a much higher absorbtion (~95%), and most of the transdermal seemed to be less than 50%.

If I try the nasal and it sucks as bad a KLAUS says it will, I can still switch to one of the other methods and I won't waste an entire cartridge of Component T-H.

Here's another question about going subq with this stuff: How could I get the HPBCD endotoxin free? Is there an effective way to sterilize the final product without destroying any of it?

Thanks guys!
 
Ok im not trying to be funny hear, but a guy over elite fitness suggested the idea of using fina pellets as suppository. He claimed it will have absorption rate higher than 70%. He posted good amount of reference and studies to support that. He also made a log of his anal fina cycle, I don’t really know if it was a joke, or for real. But from what I recall his idea convinced many people that it may work. Funny thing after that thread many people who were afraid to inject were thinking to shove fina in their ass .
 
I got it!!!!!

Still do the fina/cyclodextrin in the metered pump spray bottle, except, put the sprayer up my ass and give it a couple "pumps"!!

I wonder if it would "burn" my little bum??
 
Why not load a couple pellets in front of a BB in a BB Gun and give it 10 pumps? That should make into your ass cheek by at least a quarter inch.:toofunny:
Sorry, I had to. Seriously though, I am interested in which direction you go with this.
 
Funny thing...X_MUSCLE got me thinking a little.

The one problem with taking tren the nasal route is (besides probably hurting) is the fast absorbtion then relative quick decline in blood levels, hence the need for frequent dosing throughout the day.

We know the suppository route is actually a pretty good way to get drugs into our systems. Soooo what if you could get the tren into a suppository that could deliver the drugs in a more prolonged method, say 4 hours.

Some "food" for thought!! Read this:

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size said:
Have any links or evidence on this?
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I'll try to dig up the links but there are no scientific evidence of this that i know of... I read it on an HRT thread/board where a patient of Dr. Shippen had him inject test sub-q.
 
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