Year round testosterone usage

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Indigo6
    Here's a scenario for you: Healthy male in his 50's. Cancer survivor. But the intense chemo left him with a reduced sex drive, minor ED and some testicular atrophy. Blood work puts his test at ~ 600, so HRT was not prescribed. Can a man like this do his own HRT by augmenting his own test production year round?. Since technically he's not shutdown, would he eventually be? Will the test increase his sex drive and aid his performance? Right now he's considering starting 4-AD at a very low dosage; about 100mg daily. What would you fellas recommend?
    I would say yes, give it a try. Just keep your dosages on an HRT level and get frequent check ups. I am not nearly as conservative as alot of guys around here but you can certainly do this responsibly. If you have any health concerns I would hop off and address them ASAP. Other wise I see no reason to be overly cautious, just be careful.

    Yes the test should certainly increase your sex drive and could possibly aid in performance although I don't believe I have ever seen proof of that. For obvious reasons I would use test over 4-ad but both would do the trick.


  2. No, year round test won't make you sterile, and you don't have to freeze some sperm just to be safe. Your nuts actually work better after a complete shutdown cause it regrows the layer of leydig(sp) cells that produce testosterone. We all had tiny testicles as children before LH kicked in to make them bigger and it didn't make us permanently sterile. What can mess you up though is supraphysiological levels of HCG, so by that rational, year round use in a HRT manner is much safer than the way many people cycle.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by lifted
    Bud, if you've had cancer, do NOT mess around with AAS/PH's. Others here might tell you that AAS might not exacerbate previous cancerous problems, but they are wrong. Sides get worse with age using anabolics...even at HRT doses. Don't put yourself at risk for BPH, cholesterol, etc. especially when you're a cancer survivor. And yes, you will still eventually get supressed.

    As for help in ED dept. go see your doc for some cialis, viagra, etc...tell him about your libido problems, that's what they are there for....good luck.
    First of all, this is about a friends husband, not me. She said they talked to their oncologist about this. He was the one that ordered the testosterone blood test. Had there been a contraindication for HRT, he would have told them at that time. And Viagra only helps you to perform, it does nothing for your libido. "The shoes may make you run faster, but you've got to come to the race wanting to run".

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Tiftan090
    No, year round test won't make you sterile, and you don't have to freeze some sperm just to be safe. Your nuts actually work better after a complete shutdown cause it regrows the layer of leydig(sp) cells that produce testosterone. We all had tiny testicles as children before LH kicked in to make them bigger and it didn't make us permanently sterile. What can mess you up though is supraphysiological levels of HCG, so by that rational, year round use in a HRT manner is much safer than the way many people cycle.
    bump for thoughts on this post...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Tiftan090
    No, year round test won't make you sterile, and you don't have to freeze some sperm just to be safe. Your nuts actually work better after a complete shutdown cause it regrows the layer of leydig(sp) cells that produce testosterone. We all had tiny testicles as children before LH kicked in to make them bigger and it didn't make us permanently sterile. What can mess you up though is supraphysiological levels of HCG, so by that rational, year round use in a HRT manner is much safer than the way many people cycle.
    bumped a 2nd time... nuts work better?
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  6. Why not try a test/libido booster like ATD? That will surely get his nuts to swell anyhow.

  7. ATD absolutely kills libidio in most
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Tiftan090
    No, year round test won't make you sterile, and you don't have to freeze some sperm just to be safe. Your nuts actually work better after a complete shutdown cause it regrows the layer of leydig(sp) cells that produce testosterone. We all had tiny testicles as children before LH kicked in to make them bigger and it didn't make us permanently sterile. What can mess you up though is supraphysiological levels of HCG, so by that rational, year round use in a HRT manner is much safer than the way many people cycle.
    bumped again...
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59
    ATD absolutely kills libidio in most
    Mine was severly devasted.

  10. guys guys guys guys guys... guys guys!

    Don't you know that people like me shouldn't see these threads?

    Bump deo's bump of Tiftan's post.

    regrowth of leydig? Really?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by preston78
    If you use testosterone year round is there ever a chance of impotence due to testicular atrophy even though you are still taking the test?
    Men who are impotent are prescribed test year round.

  12. I know of a fellow that got his lady pregnant about 15 weeks into a heavy test/eq cycle. I wouldn't rely on it as a method of birth control. Even if its being tested as such...

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider
    Men who are impotent are prescribed test year round.
    Thants helpful info that releives some of my anxiety

  14. I think what people are missing about the whole "Test as Birth Control" issue is that the men in the studies were often taking supraphysiological doses of test for a year or better before they were declared infertile. Last time I checked there's 52 weeks in a year not just 15 so it seems to be that the length of us is more important here than the amplitude of use.

    So if you've been on constantly for a year you've got less chance of getting the wife pregnant than if she was on the pill, if you haven't been on that long the odds increase (though I'd guess there's some effect fairly quickly).

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