winstrol for mass?
- 09-28-2005, 10:29 PM
winstrol for mass?
hey guys. this is more of a survey/poll rather than a question. i was just wondering if anyone out there has experinced any significant mass gains while taking winstrol (oral tablets). i know that there are far superior orals-dbol, drol, etc.-for mass, but i was just curious if anyone noticed that winstrol helped put on mass. i'm getting ready to add it to my cycle and would like to tweak diet/exercise routines accordingly. thanks.
- 09-29-2005, 12:32 AM
what base cycle are you adding it to? stanzonol is superb for cutting, rough on your joints, and a bitch slap in the face to your liver. you just have to weigh the costs/benefits of using it
- 09-29-2005, 01:01 AM
my base cycle is test prop 150 eod and masteron 100 eod. i'm actually gaining a lot of mass on this so far, have yet to add the winstrol. i'm up 13 pounds in about 12 days, so i was thinking of just scratching the cutting idea and just go for mass, and was wondering if winstrol would help at all in the mass dept. if it will not help as much with mass, i will modify diet and go with my original intentions of a cutter/leaner. thanks.
09-29-2005, 05:56 AM
I've def noticed my weight jumping up a few pounds when I introduce winny into the mix. Whether you gain mass or not is really a factor of calories consumed not AAS.
09-29-2005, 07:40 AM
personaly i dont rate winny not a fan , i find Tbol much better with much better gains
09-29-2005, 11:06 AM
tbol or var are in theory supposed to be better alternative to winny bro, except if you go with the injectable. Stanozol is not that bad, although it's poor androgenic potency it has great protein synthesis stimulating properties and can surprisingly increase strength and gives ya a " dry " look, bottom line is don't do it if you can source tbol or var, otherwise go for oral winny or if you don't mind ED shots, injectable
09-29-2005, 09:57 PM
tbol? either this is a drug i've never heard of or it's just a different name that some give to a drug i already know of. can anyone clarify? i feel i know my gear fairly well, at least what's what and how they work and such, but never heard of tbol. nother name for dianabol?
09-29-2005, 10:26 PM
Tbol... Oral Turinabol, OT, 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosteron e.Originally Posted by jeff33333
East German Scientists developed it and administered it to Male and Female Olympic Atheletes from the 60's to the 80's.
It has the same base structure as Dianabol. It has a much lower androgenic activity than Dbol though. Much less water retention.
Anectodal description, a cross between Dbol and Anavar.
British Dragon makes a fine product=Turanabol.
This is gaining popularity again on quite a few boards.
09-29-2005, 10:41 PM
thanks bry, gonna look into that for my next go round.
09-30-2005, 12:56 AM
so most people prefer anavar over winny for a cutter...?
09-30-2005, 07:57 AM
for me there is no comparision , anavar is better but i have only used at 60mg upwards
09-30-2005, 02:11 PM
what's the average dose for anavar, and you wanna do a 4-6 weeks of it correct...?
09-30-2005, 08:14 PM
min. dose depends on what your running with it. standalone 50mg/QD would start you off nicely.
10-01-2005, 01:28 PM
Are there any symptoms to look for as far as liver problems starting? I'm talking about 1st signs of trouble that appear before any permanent damage has occured?Originally Posted by chasec
10-01-2005, 03:34 PM
not really, unless you want to wait for jaundice...
your liver is actually pretty resilient. a short (<6 weeks) bout of an methylated oral won't do unrepairable damage to you as long as you don't have any previous liver disease, and are smart (no drinking, take liver protectant supps.)
but the best answer is just to go get a full panel run after a cycle to make sure your not missing something that is going on inside.
10-01-2005, 03:54 PM
Thanks man, I'll limit my orals to 6 weeks. Milk Thistle's the only sup I'm aware of. Does it really do any good? I've read that it limits your gains, too. Any better supps for the liver?
10-01-2005, 07:09 PM
by all means, keep it shorter if you can.
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