8th week of cycle and no signs of shutdown
- 09-18-2005, 12:18 PM
- 09-18-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Johnny666
09-18-2005, 12:56 PM
Ghosting I don't understand when you say size doesn't mean you are shut down that is why guys think Clomid is good for PCT.
Also what would be a better indicator of shut down? Blood test and if so which specific test.
I understand what the original poster is saying. There are guys who do no HCG and no CLomid during a cycle and get VERY little to no nut shrinkage, but I would e imagine they would still be suffering shut down.
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09-18-2005, 05:44 PM
Clomnid is very useful for making the boys bigger from sperm, no doubt about it. Clomiphene is used in fertility clinics. However testicle size is not a good indication of how much test they are putting out. Think of all the guys that go to see the doctor, with normal size testicles, big loads, but they go on HRT because although everythings looks & works fine, their test levels are sup par. Thats what I mean when I say size isnt a good indication. I realize when everyone starts taking exogenous anabolic compounds, they see their boys shrink up like raisins. So the immediate assumption is ball equals test output.
IMO it should be blood work and look at your total test is always good, but I say that the free test is what matters.
09-19-2005, 11:59 AM
So, would I need HCG for PCT or would a protocol of Clomid and Nolvadex serve the purpose of bringing my "boys" back to normal?
09-19-2005, 12:48 PM
hcg should be used when on cycle not off .. its suppressive and a poor choice for pct .. nolva is for pct
do a search on "hcg*" the * will allow you to search for it since its less than 4 letters .. you'll find everything you need
09-19-2005, 02:07 PM
Bumps Glens advice, please no hcg during PCT. I would focus more on serms and others supps to target cortisol and such.Originally Posted by glenihan
09-19-2005, 02:33 PM
Thanks for all the useful info. I was under the impression that HCG was used for PCT. I'm glad I didn't make that mistake! Thanks again.
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