Liquid Clomid/Novladex FAQ

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Liquid products (clomid & novladex in particular) are popping up everywhere and are becoming easily avaliable and quite popular. So with that said, let's go over some common questions....

Is liquid clomid & novladex legal?

Clomid and novla. tabs are legal, if you have a 'script. If not, then you're not going to be able to go to the pharmacy and request them and expect to receive them. If you can not find a source for tabs, then no problem, go for the liquid products. These are legal for research purposes!. You can buy them over the internet, using your regular name, regular mailing address, regular credit card with no problems. Its all legal.

Where can I get these liquid goods?

There are several, fairly new distributors of research chemicals and compounds out there. Contact one of the mods and get their recommendation on the best place to purchase.

Should I get Clomid or 6-oxo

This is your choice. I wont decide for you. As for which is better, there's no head to head comparion. Clomid isnt over the counter, 6-oxo is. I prefer clomid, mainly because of the price. They wiull both function well and help your body recover from artifical androgens. So its your choice.

Which should I get? Novla or Clomid?

Again, treat this as tabs. Which would you get if you were using tabs? I would get both to be honest. Keep your novladex on hand in case of gyno. If you have never had gyno and wantto assume you wont, thats fine, no big deal, go for the clomid to help the jewels return to utopia.

Which is better.. Tabs or liquid?

I have used both. Both have done their job abd acted in the same manner equally. Put it this way, liquid products are tabs suspended in a solution so they can be taken orally. Liquid products, for most, are easier to obtain and fast becoming the choice.

How exactly do I take these liquid products?

Although they are liquid they are not meant to be injected!. These are oral solutions, to be taken by mouth. I drop the proper dose in my mouth, swish it around and swallow. Now, I wont lie to you, the taste is enough to make you not want to use it again. You can pay an extra $2 and buy a hundred or so gel caps. Take a needle and syringe, inject the proper dose of liquid into the caps and take them that way, its simple also and no taste.

What dose of the liquid products do I take?

Again, treat these products like tabs. How much would you take if you had a hundred or so tabs on hand? If you do not know, I wont explain here and you should discard your anabolics ASAP, because you're clueless. Doses will differ from person to person, I generally play it on the safe side and start at 200mgs ED for a week, 100mgs ED for a week, 50mgs ED for a week. This is something you will have to assess yourself. Im sure you can search around and get your answer. Some start at 300mgs ED for a week, the standard I believe is 200mgs ED for a week.

How long will one bottle of liquid last me?

Once again, this is dependant upon what dose range you use. More often than not, one bottle will be enough for you. Liqua-Solutions sells a 50mL bottle of clomid for $25. Which is an excellent price. This is 50mg per mL. So if you use the method I stated above, it would look like this:

4mL ED for a week (28 total mL)
2mL ED for a week (14 total mL)
1mL ED for a week (7 total mL)

*Thats 49mL total. Ah perfect since its a 50mL bottle. So $25 for complete clomid coverage. Thats stellar.

Novladex is generally used at 20-40mgs ED when gyno appears. So depending upon which you do, will determine how long the bottle will last. Again, at Liqua-Solutions, this is a 50mL bottle. 20mgs per mL.

How Do I measure the amount I need?

Do not be alarmed, each bottle comes with a dropper for you to do your measuring. Generally, the dropper is customized for the product you purchased. If there is no dropper included, you can go to your local pharmacy, feed store, Wal Mart and purchase yourself a dropper for some extra change.

Do any other products come in liquid form?

Yes, as a matter of fact. You can obtain Letrozole, anastrozole (arimidex), exemesatne, Cialis, sildenifil citrate, Clen, T3, Finasteride, and a few others, all for very reasonable prices and all very much legal.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask them IN HERE

Thanks, YJ
 
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This sure helps answer many of the ???? people have. The price is great. I'm going with clomid my next cycle, screw 6-oxo.
 

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Wish i knew about htis before my current cycle and 100 dollars worth of 6 oxo
 
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thanx yj.. helps a lot bro.. is clomid a receptor blocker or an anti-aromatiser? what about novla?
 
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To prevent YJ from a head of gray hair, I'll answer you.. ;)

Clomid is actually a fertility drug, but this helps athletes who use AAS because of its ability to stimulate Lutenizing Hormone, and Folicle Stimulating Hormone.. These hormones are key when it comes to gettin' your nuts back to normal.. Clomid also has an estrogen-blocking effect, meaning it can block estrogen from binding to receptors.. Nolvadex, or Tamoxifen Citrate, also has a LH/FSH stimulating effect, but is stronger in its anti-estrogen effect..

So, the two compounds are anti-estrogens... :)
 
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Also, Anastrozole is an anti-aromatase... This compound, commonly known as Arimidex, can block estrogen production, not the receptor.. It keeps aromatase enzyme from binding to free testosterone, in return, blocks estrogen production PERIOD!!

Do not thank me, this is what I do... :D
 

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Thanks a lot Pete, I will put the razor blade down now.....
 
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Brother, you're too young for gray hair.. :)
 
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Originally posted by YellowJacket
No,
I was going to gash my wrists ;)
The "gray hair" comment was a nice way of puttin' it.. :D
 

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Thanks a lot for this info YJ.
It`s the most useful post I`ve seen for a while.
How long will the liquid clomid be good for after purchase, and how should it be stored?
 
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damn YJ no need to flip out.. i dont know too much about the substances cause hell they are substances i have never used therefore i have never needed to research them.. sheesh.
 

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damn YJ no need to flip out.. i dont know too much about the substances cause hell they are substances i have never used therefore i have never needed to research them.. sheesh.
That information is ALL over this board and every board man, this thread is intended for questions related to the compounds suspended in solution, not their actions.
 

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nice post, damn... should definitely help to preempt more and more of these kinds of questions that are popping up
 
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sorry... that is an amazing price... ergopharm definitely has some problems pricing 6-oxo so high.. i talked to a few of my older friends around campus who have done cycles of aas and they seem to think the world of it so i might give it a try after my ph.. thanx again for the info
 
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awesome info
 

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I already have grey hair...so if i go bald at age 25 its gonna suck.
 
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Here's what you could expect from your order...

50ml Liqua-clomid vial.. ;)
 

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Oral syringe, $2.39 at Walgreens.. Holds 5ml or  2 tsp..

Comes with scrubber brush for cleaning, and an adapter to draw the dosage from..
 

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yep those are the ones Pete :D I also like the little one you can pour into.. I will attempt to get a picture of it tonight
 

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Just my 2 cents, but spring for the nolva! It is worth the extra money, I just finished my t1-pro cycle and I am 1 week into clomid therapy. Yikes! The mood swings are driving me nuts.
 

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it says on their website that the products are "not intended for human consumption."
How safe to drink are these products? If that lil statement is there to cover their ass legally if you drink it, how can we be sure that what we drink is produced under sanitary condtions and such? Is this a risk that one must take to use these prodcuts?
I am jsut concrened that I will be drinking "extra" stuff that I would rather not be drinking and if I were to get sick they will just point to their sign and say "hey we told you not to consume it."

hmmm
 
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Originally posted by intel55
it says on their website that the products are "not intended for human consumption."
How safe to drink are these products? If that lil statement is there to cover their ass legally if you drink it, how can we be sure that what we drink is produced under sanitary condtions and such? Is this a risk that one must take to use these prodcuts?
I am jsut concrened that I will be drinking "extra" stuff that I would rather not be drinking and if I were to get sick they will just point to their sign and say "hey we told you not to consume it."

hmmm

Ahh, alittle urine never hurt anybody.. Who cares that it's made in some guy's basement in an old tub? :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a cover-our-ass statement, as mentioned above.. ;)
 

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:D yes yes I know it is a cover your ass statement.

So I can assume that you guys have used the stuff and have never had any problems?

No hesitation drinking the stuff?

Their Clomid is on backorder :mad: and that i the one I want.. arggg

any ideas on when it will be back?:cool:
 
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Originally posted by intel55
:D yes yes I know it is a cover your ass statement.

So I can assume that you guys have used the stuff and have never had any problems?

No hesitation drinking the stuff?

Their Clomid is on backorder :mad: and that i the one I want.. arggg

any ideas on when it will be back?:cool:
Now that we understand it's a general statement to cover asses, to answer your other questions:

Yes, many have used it, I actually tasted 1ml of the clomid as part of a demonstration.. Alot of guys will tell you it tastes really bad, I thought the aftertaste was rough, but smooth nonetheless..

I didn't hesitate to try it, I did it for research.. :) You'll find the thread here..

Any issues of when "they" get their liquid products is up to who you go to for them.. We have no power over their shipments, unless I hijack a truckload, even then I'd be greedy.. :p :saw:
 

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When to take this with or with out food, can I have a chaser of OJ or something for the taste
 

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Clomid I believe is best taken with some sort of fats? Someone else can back me or shoot me down, Yes you can chase with oj but I would chase with grapefruit juice since it can increase the efficacy of oral meds.... which in the case of an anti e is cool.
 
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Quiz question: What is the name of the nutrient in grapefruit juice that increases the efficacy of oral meds? ;)
 

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There are two but the major one is DHB. However, I don't think grapefruit juice increases absorption of all drugs. I'll do some research when I get out of class ;)
 
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Nangarin(sp) is one, which is why alot of fatburners were using it.. I found out the hard way, popped some Adipo, downed it with grapefruit, felt like I was in Bullet-Time yet I was moving too fast.. :D
 

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ok on your post cycle clomid, do you take it all at once or would you split it into 2 doses. say 12 hours apart? thanks for the help.

hey big pete, what would you suggest for post cycle from 1ad and 1,4 andro?
1ad 900mg per day 4 weeks total
1,4 600mg per day 4 weeks total.
this is the first time i have used clomid, i have used zma and 6 oxo in the past and wasnt really too happy with them.

thanks for your help bro....
 
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Originally posted by good_guye28
ok on your post cycle clomid, do you take it all at once or would you split it into 2 doses. say 12 hours apart? thanks for the help.

hey big pete, what would you suggest for post cycle from 1ad and 1,4 andro?
1ad 900mg per day 4 weeks total
1,4 600mg per day 4 weeks total.
this is the first time i have used clomid, i have used zma and 6 oxo in the past and wasnt really too happy with them.

thanks for your help bro....
I'll answer both questions.. ;)

1. You can split your clomid dose, or take all at once.. No difference really..

2. Use clomid, 4 weeks with the first two at 100-150mg. ED, then the final two weeks at 100-50mg ED.. This is a good way to aid in recovery, also saves you money at these doses..
 

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If you choose clomid take your dose at night. This will cut down on vision effects and the dreams were pretty wierd for me :)

Also I found a great way to dose the products with out messing with the oral syringe and stopper. Use an old needle with an 18g needle and cut the tip off the plastic needle guard just beyond the tip of the needle. You can slide that to the back of your throat with out a danger of poking yourself. And if you use a narrow needle and long dart it will slip right down the bottle of liquid with no problem for drawing.
 

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yeah its some nasty tasting stuff. i was beginning to wonder if i was gonna get mine, i ordered from liquidresearch and it took like 7 days. i sent them a couple of emails and it took a while but they did respond. in the future ill be ordering from somewhere else.

ok i have a question of this statement:
Use clomid, 4 weeks with the first two at 100-150mg. ED, then the final two weeks at 100-50mg ED..

i maybe retarded but what is the "ED"... i know some of you get mad and say people shouldnt take stuff unless you know everything about it but that is why im here to learn all i can and with all the knowledge from this web site i have learned more in the few months i have been a member than about 5 years of reading magazines. so any help you guys give is greatly appreciated.
thanks again.
 
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Originally posted by good_guye28
i maybe retarded but what is the "ED"...
ED= Every Day

EOD= Every Other Day
 
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with all the knowledge from this web site i have learned more in the few months i have been a member than about 5 years of reading magazines. so any help you guys give is greatly appreciated.
thanks again.
thats cuz most publications (weidler, etc) sucks. unless you enjoy paying 4.99 for looking at ads for celltech, NO2, pure protein bars, and GH's. its great to ask quesitons directly to members who know so much about this field. :)
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yeah its some nasty tasting stuff. i was beginning to wonder if i was gonna get mine, i ordered from liquidresearch and it took like 7 days. i sent them a couple of emails and it took a while but they did respond. in the future ill be ordering from somewhere else.
yeah i wasnt happy with my order either.. i ordered nolva and they wrote me back an email 3 days later that says they were actually out of nolva and they were sorry for the inconvenience.. they said they would give me the nolva when they got it (4 days later) and they would offer me a free bottle of anything i choose.. i chose the clen cause hell i didnt need dex or any anti-e's (since the nolva wasnt for me and i had already used my nolva) so i told them send me a bottle of clen with it.. well i got the order and it came with two things of nolvadex.. so i wasnt really happy with that..:rolleyes:
 

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even though i have been done with my prohormone cycle for like 4 weeks now, do u think it would be too late to start taking nolva?

cause i have been taking 6oxo but im still having erectile problems...should i be doing something stronger?

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Well it should boost your natural testosterone and eliminate estrogen but I am surprised that you are still having problems after four weeks. You could try it but I would probably see a doctor to. See how low your test really is if you can get a blood test and maybe have him give you a diagnosis.
 

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ok just a quick question..... i cant seem to find the proper dosage amount for nolva AND clomid for pct... i have found bouth by their selves but my question is by takeing them bouth does it alter the amount of one or the other you should take.....also how long should you take them for a 2 or 4 week cycle of m1t... so i am sorry to ask and i know this will piss someone off but i was finding dead ends.....SORRY!!

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Sorry guys, been looking, cant find anything on the best time to take Nolva and with or without food? was reading above about clomid...
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Sorry guys, been looking, cant find anything on the best time to take Nolva and with or without food? was reading above about clomid...
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With food. There's not a best time to take it since the half life is long (I believe 35 hours). If taking 20mg/day, a single dose is fine. If taking 30mg or 40mg, dose 15mg or 20mg 2X/day approx 12 hours apart.
 

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Cheers supersoldier. This is a very informative thread!
 

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just a quicky, i have the PN nolva with a pump dispenser, is one squirt 0.5ml as it seems like a very small amount?????
thanx
 
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thanks for the good knowledge, gonna to go with nolva in a week after two weeks of m1t,
 

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