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I am planing out a cycle that will be aiming for a clean bulk to gain and to keep about
15lbs and raise my deffinitions.My experience is one ergomax cycle.
here is what i have been thinking about:

preeload 4-AD for one week at 600mg
week 1: 1-AD 300mg/600mg 4-AD
week 2: 1-AD 300mg/600mg 4-AD
week 3: 1-AD 600mg/1000mg 4-AD/80mg m5aa
week 4: 1-AD 600mg/1000mg 4-AD/100mg m5aa
week 5: 1-AD 600mg/1000mg 4-AD/100mg m5aa
week 6: 1-AD 600mg/1000mg 4-AD/100mg m5aa

pct will consist of nolvadex,rxt,forza-t
all liver,bloodpresure and all other protections is in order.

Could someone comment on their thoughs and earlier experiences with these compounds stacked togheter.
Thanks for your reply
 
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is that your first cycle?
 
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okay,
my first cycle ever was: 400mg 1-ad, 600mg 4-ad; 4weeks
squat rep up 90lbs. weight up 17lbs.

my 2nd cycle was 4weeks later: just 400mg 1-ad
squat rep up 90lbs. weight up only 6lbs though.

4-ad is crucial to the mass gains, and the overall feeling on the cycle.

through 2 cycles my squat went from 225 to 405 x 12. I ripped a tendon in my knee. Be careful man. Even if your muscles are strong enough to do the weight - your tendons may not be.

1-ad by ergopharm was unreal, it was my first anabolic experience though.

what is your diet like
 
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1-ad doesn't kick in for about 2 weeks (actually the night of 10th day ;) ), although the weight gains are immediate. You don't neccessarily need to frontload. It's your call though
 

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1ad/4ad is an an awesome stack. I also gained about 15lbs using it as my first cycle.

don't be fooled into thinking this is a mild cycle because they are ph's because you will get shut down and hard. I had a much rougher pct on this than with either sd or ergomax.
 

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my diet is wery clean and strict,taking in about 3000 cal aday.
working out har 5 times a week for about 5 years.
What weight gains could i expect from this?do you think the ad of m5aa would have an hardening effekt?
wht is important to think of about pct that is different from ergomax and sd pct?
 
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You'll probably gain 10lbs, keep 8. But there are so many factor, main one is diet.
M5aa will probably have hardening effect, but I think it's temporary. Your dosage is low on that one.


Pct
Nolva 80,40,20,20
RXT: Min dose tapered to Max Dose.
will work fine.
 
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I think it looks fine. Eat a lot and sleep 8 hours if possible. Smile and be nice to everyone you meet.
 
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what would be a better m5aa dosage??
I'd start at 60mg, see how it feels and work up to 100mg. Use it in divided doses, with a big dose pre-workout. If using 100mg, say, I'd take 30mg in the AM, 40mg pre-workout, and 30 more later in the day. I take M5 2 hours pre-workout myself. Adjust this according to your workout schedule and so forth. Or, take 50mg pre-workout and 50mg some time later or earlier in the day.
 

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What is your opinion and what did you have for effect of m5aa?
 
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m5aa is usually a pre workout stim during a cycle.
 

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i used 4AD and a M1T my senior year in HS it worked fine. Just make sure4 u do your PCT right. good luck
 

JonasDavidsson

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i want more info about m5aa?what hardening results would it give and would it do anything as a stand alone?
Is 6 weeks possible?
Is it stackable whit e-max used only preeworkout?
 

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