ephedra for "asthma relief". where?

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    ephedra for "asthma relief". where?


    anybody kno if anyone still sells ephedra under "asthma relief" i been looking , but don't see anyone with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realsoundjim
    anybody kno if anyone still sells ephedra under "asthma relief" i been looking , but don't see anyone with it.
    I don't know about ephedra, since last I checked that substance was banned. But you can just as easily get ephedrine HCL; which is completely legal and has the same effects of ephedrine without the side effects some people get.

    http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=50

    there's one place to get it. I'm sure there are many others. You may want to try some of the board sponsors. They probably have a better deal on it.
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    Walk into any pharmacy, get Primatine tablets.. Same as Vaso-Pro, Mini-Thins..
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    even though the ban was lifted for ephedra, there are very few supp. companies producing it!

    you can get it from the link below.

    Pantothenic Acid (calcium pantothenate)45mg400% Bitter Orange (fruit & root)(standardized to 5mg. synephrine)85mg* Ma Huang (plant)(Standardized to 20mg of ephedrine)334mg* Guarana Extract (seed)(standardized to 200mg caffeine)910mg* Proprietary Blend
    White Willow Bark Extract (standardized to 15mg. salicin) Ginger Root, L-Tyrosine, 3',4',7-Tetrahydroxyflavone, Magnesium Phosphate, DMAE (2-dimethylaminoethanol), Acetyl L-carnitine, Green Tea Extract, Acetyl L-Tyrosine
    375mg*

    http://www.24hoursupplements.com/pro...a0c5d015bd3c46
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox
    Walk into any pharmacy, get Primatine tablets.. Same as Vaso-Pro, Mini-Thins..
    awesome. I didn't know that. Any idea off the top of your head how many mg of ephedrine it has per tablet?
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    wuts the difference between regular ephedra and "ephedra hcl"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sendo
    awesome. I didn't know that. Any idea off the top of your head how many mg of ephedrine it has per tablet?
    IIRC, it's 12.5mg/tab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intv
    IIRC, it's 12.5mg/tab.
    Mine is 25mg, but could be different brands.
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    I buy Ephedrine plus at the local cumbi's and it's 25mg + 200mg of some
    bronchiodialator(sp?).
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    is ephedrine, epinephrine, and the "hcl" versions all the same ?
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    gas station


    from ur local gas station!
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    THAT was my little secret for a while, any truck stop on the high way sells Ephedrine and caffeine tabs...they are all at the counter next to the sex aids...at my recent job I used to travel on the road and would load up on ephedrine while I was out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedaykin
    I buy Ephedrine plus at the local cumbi's and it's 25mg + 200mg of some
    bronchiodialator(sp?).
    ephedrine is the brionciodialator(sp), the guafiesen(sp) is there to prevent overdoses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sendo
    I don't know about ephedra, since last I checked that substance was banned. But you can just as easily get ephedrine HCL; which is completely legal and has the same effects of ephedrine without the side effects some people get.

    http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=50

    there's one place to get it. I'm sure there are many others. You may want to try some of the board sponsors. They probably have a better deal on it.
    Go to www.elitesportssupplements.co.uk/eph.htm pure Eph Hcl 30mgs (no crap added) thats where I've been getting mine for years
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    Here's another for ephedra:
    (Ephedra and ephedrine are not the same.)
    http://www.mysupplementstore.com/liwiepbyhi.html
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    i keep readin on these sights that the ban is lifted..... is this true?!
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    Yes it has!!!

    http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/new...p?docID=525167
    Quote Originally Posted by realsoundjim
    i keep readin on these sights that the ban is lifted..... is this true?!
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    [ok wow, that being said, who's got the cheapest. i remember a while ago our board sponsors carried it but i dont see it anymore..... who's carryin it cheap per millgram? I don't need all them extra fillers just plain old ephedra pills
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    Grocery stores, gas stations, web sites, and even Wal-Mart never stopped selling ephedrine.
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    they didnt stop selling "ephedrine".... but is that the same as ephedra? the guy above u says they are different
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    1. Ephedra and ephedrine are the same, technically. Ephedra is the herbal extract, which contains ephedrine and small amounts of pseudoephedrine, norpseudoephedrine and other parts of the ephedra herb. Ephedrine HCl is the synthetic form, manufactured in a similar process to Sudafed. The herbal version may have some added benefits due to its other chemicals, but the synthetic version will be pure and should be consistent, unlike some herbal extracts. Either will work.

    2. Ephedra is not actually legal to manufacture or sell, however the FDA ban was challenged and "overturned" in Federal Court. The FDA has not given up on the case and has appealed. They can still confiscate and prosecute ephedra makers or sellers, because well, they are the government and make up their own rules. Try fighting it.

    3. Guafenesin is added to Ephedrine HCl to prevent methamphetamine labs from using it to make meth. Apparently guafenesin has some chemical properties that are hard to separate from ephedrine. The same has been done with many psuedoephedrine (Sudafed) products, which are in many states being banned or requiring that you fill out a form to buy. There is a major concern among lawmakers that ingredients to make methamphetamine are so easily accessible. This was one of the reasons claimed for the ephedra ban, although most meth labs use OTC pseudoephedrine, not herbal ephedra.

    Hope that answers your questions.
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    how is this hcl stuff you guys are talkin about??? same results without the sideeffects???? sounds to good to be true (i hear a voice in my head saying that it probably is then...)
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    Guafenesin is mainly an expectorant, helps break up phlegm.. Brooklyn is on point with all the other info..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn

    3. Guafenesin is added to Ephedrine HCl to prevent methamphetamine labs from using it to make meth. Apparently guafenesin has some chemical properties that are hard to separate from ephedrine. The same has been done with many psuedoephedrine (Sudafed) products, which are in many states being banned or requiring that you fill out a form to buy. There is a major concern among lawmakers that ingredients to make methamphetamine are so easily accessible. This was one of the reasons claimed for the ephedra ban, although most meth labs use OTC pseudoephedrine, not herbal ephedra.

    Hope that answers your questions.
    Guafenesin is an expectorant. Its been added long before meth made the news for people who actually do take the medications for asthma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicbum
    how is this hcl stuff you guys are talkin about??? same results without the sideeffects???? sounds to good to be true (i hear a voice in my head saying that it probably is then...)
    It's been used for decades, nothing new. It's the "E" in a real ECA stack.
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    I take Stacker 3 with 25mg, really gets me going, I go on it for a month or two and come off for a month

    I am not sure if thats necessary to go off and on, but I figure it can't hurt... I drink coffee or take caffeine
    when im not on Ephedra. Ephedra amps me up big time for gym and whenever im sluggish
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    Question Nutrient Partitioning


    I read somewhere in the Nutrition forum that either ephedra or ephedrine has nutrient partitioning effects.

    1. Could someone please explain exactly what this means and how it works?
    2. Does Ephedrine HCL have these same nutrient partitioning properties?

    Thanks
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    cvs- bronkaid-25mg or primatene tabs-12.5mg, stack w/ 81mg baby asprin and 200mg caffeine anhydrous. Its all at the local pharmacy for around 20$ a month.
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