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| Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canfield
Posts: 111
| i got 4 free sample pills from a gnc in cleveland (guess the gnc was a franchise?) anyway, the dude there said something about being pretty strong. I took it in conjunction with arsenal-x. I don't think it was a good idea, I felt really strange. But my workout was phenominal. But, i'm not looking to increase my mass whatsoever. Just looking to increase my strength, lower my weight and become more vascular. I really want to get rid of the arsenal-x because it's just a run of the mill stim. (yohimbe, theobromine, caffeine anhydrous) and now that I found out that the 17-halo-methyl-diandrone is very very similar to regular androgen and is extremely anabolic, i'm not going to use it anymore. so i mean, if you're looking to increase your lean muscle mass then using the 17 halo would most likely be the way to go. just don't use it in conjunction with a stim. I'm not authority on this, but I'm pretty sure it'd be really bad for your heart. |
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| Applied Representative Board Sponsor | As I mentioned in another 17-HD related thread: I used it, and was very pleased with the strength gains from day one. I did use liver protection, but so far I have been unable to get any clear explanation of what the 17-Halo is. Company claims it is plant based, but no plant gives you that kind of strength boost on day 1 of its use. Note: IDS has a similar version..... 17-Hydroxy Mesterone. I used it also for a cycle.... IMO not nearly as good as the Vyotech version. I think the methylation and/or delivery system was the deciding difference. IDS version is twice as many pills for roughly the same cost though........ |
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| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 25
Posts: 991
| So if it is actually an herbal, it should not shutdown the HPTA right? I have thought about emailing the company to try and get some straight answers, just need to find their email lol. I got a few samples this week and took it preworkout, I am currently in pct, workouts went pretty good, dunno if it was the 17HD or not... |
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| Banned | Customer Service: customerservice@vyotech.com Customer Sales: sales@vyotech.com Wholesale: wholesales@vyotech.com searching the html code showed all 3 addresses. shct |
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