DesignerSteroids--lets rate them
- 08-12-2005, 08:11 PM
- 08-12-2005, 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by USPLabs
- 08-12-2005, 08:44 PM
08-12-2005, 08:51 PM
08-12-2005, 08:52 PM
08-13-2005, 02:05 AM
08-13-2005, 02:27 AM
Milwood,Originally Posted by milwood
I just ordered some ero max. How much and how long did you use it and did it cuase suppression?
08-13-2005, 02:30 AM
08-13-2005, 09:12 AM
I'd love to hear the difference from your perspective as well. I've been researching e...max and SD forever now. They seem SO CLOSE in terms of lean gains and minimal sides. But I run across more people preferring SD.Originally Posted by milwood
I'd love to hear the other side of the coin. I was able to pick up some e...max on pre-order for real cheap but have yet to try it.
08-13-2005, 09:40 AM
E-max - on first cycle right now, really like the lean gains and good strength increase.
no noticable sides for me except a little acne.
Max lmg - I have not tried this yet, don't know if i will
Prostan - ran solo for a couple of weeks and then stacked with e-max, definitely noticable
muscle hardness, increased vascularity, and improved definition. I think this one takes at least two weeks before any noticable changes. Not the best for strength or mass gains unless stacked in my opinion. I could do without the lethargy that comes with this stuff.
Superdrol - I really liked this compound, great strength gains(similar to M1T), good dry gains(no bloating, felt really lean the entire cycle), I don't know why but, I was always in good mood on this cycle and felt like engaging in friendly conversations with everyone I came in contact with. The only side that almost made me quit this cycle early was the grimacing back pumps by the end of the second week.
Orastan-E - I've never used gaspari products, probably never will.
Overall I like superdrol the best out these "supplements'', best for strength and lean mass.
08-13-2005, 10:40 AM
I am interested in knowing more.Originally Posted by Fireproof
I see you say minimum sides.
I thougth SD shut people down in as little as 3 weeks including testie shrinkage or am I not correct?
I have not read a whole lot on E max.
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08-13-2005, 10:46 AM
After my 3 week SD cycle I felt mildly shut down. No real noticable shrinkage. After my E..Max cycle I felt more shut down and had noticable shrinkage. I really think it depends on how each person reacts to the compound as alot of people claim a huge libido boost on E..Max were as I experienced a decrease if anything.
08-13-2005, 10:50 AM
Well, yeah, shut-down in about 3 weeks is common. But since that's a short-term side effect and they easily come back with PCT, I guess I don't consider it much of a concern. Maybe it's because I'm 36, have 2 kids (and no plans for more), and having a couple weeks of no libido is not a big deal, LOL.
When I say minimal sides, I was really thinking about acne, risk of hair loss, risk of gyno, and such.
08-13-2005, 12:27 PM
Ergomax (original) I ran at 20mg/day at the end of (3 weeks) of my last cycle and strength, hardness, and vascularity were increased noticably, libido up and suppression was minimal. I just kicked off my current cycle with 4 weeks of ergomax/prostanozol (20mg/75mg, respectively). I have gained about 6 lbs of muscle it seems, as I have clearly lost some fat (albuterol helps), and I look shredded honestly. I think ergo works best for me as a finishing compound, but it has given me good strength gains and apparently is a good kick-off compound as well.
08-13-2005, 01:37 PM
Ergomax - Favorite. Great lean mass gains with great libido boost and lower bf. unfortunately the only compound I have ever gotten gyno from in my life.
SD- Great for lbm gains but killed my libido and exercise performance for everything but lifting.
Max LMG - Not for me. Not much in the way of gains and killed libido.
Prostanozol- Good gains no real effect on libido or well being.
Phera-Plex - Will receive first bottle this week. Hopefully it will be like Ergo without the gyno for me.
08-13-2005, 01:38 PM
By the way USP what is up with your new product that does everything great under the sun. Waiting for this one anxiously,
Originally Posted by USPLabs
08-13-2005, 02:27 PM
E-max for me I am a little over 2 weeks into a cycle of E-max,Prostan and ATD and i`m up 11 pounds
love the lean gains and lack of sides
Max-lmg I ran a cycle a few months ago and all was good untile the 2nd week when the sides hit and I had to quite my body didnt like Max at all
SD have used it yet but plan on it this fall
08-15-2005, 02:51 PM
08-15-2005, 07:34 PM
Tried Ergo and SD. Thought that SD was better in terms of strength (my diet and situation with graduating wasn't on point as much as my ergo experience). Ergo was better in terms of weight and even looked leaner.
Sides = Ergo - pretty bad night sweats, good libido, very aggressive, acne.
Sides = SD - NONE at all. Got strong as hell on what was probably a calorie deficit. I might run SD again and have my diet on point just to see how good it really is, wish I had things straight then. It was only a 3 weeker.
08-15-2005, 07:43 PM
08-15-2005, 07:44 PM
09-09-2005, 04:41 PM
currently i'm one week into ergomax at 20mg
great libido, great strength, so far no sides except mild lethargy.
i'm really interested in seeing someone take ergomax to 30 or 40mg per day just to see how it goes for them.
09-09-2005, 07:38 PM
09-09-2005, 07:47 PM
09-09-2005, 07:59 PM
SD was good to me... all but the back pumps
2 weeks into E..max all I can say is "Hot Damn"... strength is through the roof... as are the pumps... Libido! all I see is T&A all day long!
I didn`t know so may beautiful women rode the trains in this city Do feel as if I could snap at any moment...
been a miserable MF`er for 2 days
09-09-2005, 08:40 PM
I started a cycle of E-max, but switched to SD after week 2. Felt extremely greasy; acne (nasty head pimples on shave head); increased BP; decrease in testes; no noticeable increase in muscle size, strength, muscular endurance; no decrease in recovery time. Increase in waist by 1 inch, more of a bloat, ~1lb body weight increase. Started SD @ 20 mg/day with 10 mg E-max for 1 week; then dropped E-max. I will continue SD @ 20mg/day for 1 week which I am almost thru, back pumps only side. Increase in strength, decrease in recovery time. No increase in endurance, muscles get too pumped at some points its difficult to finish sets. Feels good though. Noticeable increase in muscle size since SD (1/2-1" all around except waist), weight increase of ~6lbs on same caloric intake as E-max. Figuring some water weight with the increase in glycogen storage, makes sense since 3grams of h2o:1gram glycogen. LBM, time will tell. I will finish @ 10mg/day for 1 week for a total of 3 weeks on SD.Originally Posted by iwannagetbig
I have also been taking UHter throughout, 2 caps before bed. I have noticed increase in testicular size since stopping the E-max. I have noticed some slight softening of my nipples with a development of a few small nodules. I am going to finish off with the last week of SD with 1 UHter/ 20mg Nolva. Then 5 weeks of anavar 45-60mg/day . Then PCT; including clomid, nolva, dhea....
09-09-2005, 08:44 PM
45-60mgs of Anavar per day. NICE. I wish I could come by some now. Also I wish it supported my libido so I could run it with no test on board and not get a limpy (I know it is unusual but it happend) But great drug.
Originally Posted by jonny21
09-09-2005, 08:52 PM
We are like the opposite. I felt decrease libido on E-max. On SD I am popping wood at the hotties in the gym. Second SD run for me with similar results. First time for the anavar.
09-09-2005, 09:03 PM
You are lucky bro. Two good compounds to be able to take and pop wood all the time.
Originally Posted by jonny21
09-10-2005, 04:00 AM
09-10-2005, 07:13 PM
what is DMT?Originally Posted by french_muscle
also, i did get early signs on gyno using ergomax but i got on some nolva before it materialized into anything. but people be warned.
09-10-2005, 08:04 PM
DMT, desoxymethyltestosterone, (17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17b-ol)aka madol, is the "official" name for the substance found in AX's pheraplex... It's called a "designer steroid", and like THG and norbolethone, are compounds which were originally designed to bypass classical doping tests. They were never commercially marketed, although THG has been used since some years. DMT is the newest compound of those designer steroids, therefore it is not a controlled substance yet. And I've mentioned ergomax because you find both isomers of DMT, namely 2-ene and 3-ene in a 7:2 ratio if I can recall correctly.
09-10-2005, 10:13 PM
so 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol and 17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17b-ol are the same thing?Originally Posted by french_muscle
09-11-2005, 10:26 AM
09-11-2005, 01:13 PM
DMT was not recently "designed to by bypass classical doping tests". Actually DMT was created/patented in 1961 in the United States. However, it was patented under the name Madol, short for methylandrostenol.Originally Posted by french_muscle
09-11-2005, 01:15 PM
Yes, 17a = 17-alpha, etioallocholan is another name used for 5a-androst; it is used in place because of the 2004 law making prohomorones illegal. Its a way to "fly under the radar" so to speak. Using the "evil" word "andro" would draw more attention to it.Originally Posted by OmarJackson
09-12-2005, 02:28 AM
1. ergomax(dmt): good gains, loved the libido, very satisfied.
2. maxlmg: 1 week in out of 4, strength and hardness are good.
3. SD: not tried, no interest
4. prost: no interest
09-12-2005, 07:04 AM
09-19-2005, 05:51 PM
emax lmg +oranstan-e (prostan)= great gains 15lbs in 2 weeks keep all
max lmg= never used, progestrins give me gyno (methyl d and tren !!!)
sd= too scared of the lipid and bp sides, as my bp stayed contsant with emax.
Emax shut me down HARD so my pct is something serious
Novedex 4 caps nightly
Fengureek 4 caps nightly
200 mg DHEA in the morning
500 maca with every meal
its working so i am happy !!!
09-19-2005, 07:52 PM
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