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In terms of effectivenss
Ergo max Lmg by ALRI
Max LMG by ALRI
prostanzonol by ALRI
Superdrol by AE
Orastan-E by Gaspari
Ergo max Lmg by ALRI
Max LMG by ALRI
prostanzonol by ALRI
Superdrol by AE
Orastan-E by Gaspari
I thought prostanzonol and orastan were the same thing? Maybe I read wrong.In terms of effectivenss
Ergo max Lmg by ALRI
Max LMG by ALRI
prostanzonol by ALRI
Superdrol by AE
Orastan-E by Gaspari
Milwood,ergomax worked best for me.
I'd love to hear the difference from your perspective as well. I've been researching e...max and SD forever now. They seem SO CLOSE in terms of lean gains and minimal sides. But I run across more people preferring SD.ergomax worked best for me.
I am interested in knowing more.I'd love to hear the difference from your perspective as well. I've been researching e...max and SD forever now. They seem SO CLOSE in terms of lean gains and minimal sides. But I run across more people preferring SD.
I'd love to hear the other side of the coin. I was able to pick up some e...max on pre-order for real cheap but have yet to try it.
In terms of effectivenss
Ergo max Lmg by ALRI
Max LMG by ALRI
prostanzonol by ALRI
Superdrol by AE
Orastan-E by Gaspari
Ergomax - Favorite. Great lean mass gains with great libido boost and lower bf. unfortunately the only compound I have ever gotten gyno from in my life.
SD- Great for lbm gains but killed my libido and exercise performance for everything but lifting.
Max LMG - Not for me. Not much in the way of gains and killed libido.
Prostanozol- Good gains no real effect on libido or well being.
Phera-Plex - Will receive first bottle this week. Hopefully it will be like Ergo without the gyno for me.
^^^Could you elaborate a little more on your Emax experience...thanks.
I started a cycle of E-max, but switched to SD after week 2. Felt extremely greasy; acne (nasty head pimples on shave head); increased BP; decrease in testes; no noticeable increase in muscle size, strength, muscular endurance; no decrease in recovery time. Increase in waist by 1 inch, more of a bloat, ~1lb body weight increase. Started SD @ 20 mg/day with 10 mg E-max for 1 week; then dropped E-max. I will continue SD @ 20mg/day for 1 week which I am almost thru, back pumps only side. Increase in strength, decrease in recovery time. No increase in endurance, muscles get too pumped at some points its difficult to finish sets. Feels good though. Noticeable increase in muscle size since SD (1/2-1" all around except waist), weight increase of ~6lbs on same caloric intake as E-max. Figuring some water weight with the increase in glycogen storage, makes sense since 3grams of h2o:1gram glycogen. LBM, time will tell. I will finish @ 10mg/day for 1 week for a total of 3 weeks on SD.
I started a cycle of E-max, but switched to SD after week 2. Felt extremely greasy; acne (nasty head pimples on shave head); increased BP; decrease in testes; no noticeable increase in muscle size, strength, muscular endurance; no decrease in recovery time. Increase in waist by 1 inch, more of a bloat, ~1lb body weight increase. Started SD @ 20 mg/day with 10 mg E-max for 1 week; then dropped E-max. I will continue SD @ 20mg/day for 1 week which I am almost thru, back pumps only side. Increase in strength, decrease in recovery time. No increase in endurance, muscles get too pumped at some points its difficult to finish sets. Feels good though. Noticeable increase in muscle size since SD (1/2-1" all around except waist), weight increase of ~6lbs on same caloric intake as E-max. Figuring some water weight with the increase in glycogen storage, makes sense since 3grams of h2o:1gram glycogen. LBM, time will tell. I will finish @ 10mg/day for 1 week for a total of 3 weeks on SD.
I have also been taking UHter throughout, 2 caps before bed. I have noticed increase in testicular size since stopping the E-max. I have noticed some slight softening of my nipples with a development of a few small nodules. I am going to finish off with the last week of SD with 1 UHter/ 20mg Nolva. Then 5 weeks of anavar 45-60mg/day . Then PCT; including clomid, nolva, dhea....
hey 50,
We are like the opposite. I felt decrease libido on E-max. On SD I am popping wood at the hotties in the gym. Second SD run for me with similar results. First time for the anavar.
what is DMT?DMT (not ergomax)
SD
MAX LMG
PROSTANAZOL
so 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol and 17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17b-ol are the same thing?DMT, desoxymethyltestosterone, (17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17b-ol)aka madol, is the "official" name for the substance found in AX's pheraplex... It's called a "designer steroid", and like THG and norbolethone, are compounds which were originally designed to bypass classical doping tests. They were never commercially marketed, although THG has been used since some years. DMT is the newest compound of those designer steroids, therefore it is not a controlled substance yet. And I've mentioned ergomax because you find both isomers of DMT, namely 2-ene and 3-ene in a 7:2 ratio if I can recall correctly.
DMT was not recently "designed to by bypass classical doping tests". Actually DMT was created/patented in 1961 in the United States. However, it was patented under the name Madol, short for methylandrostenol.DMT, desoxymethyltestosterone, (17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17b-ol)aka madol, is the "official" name for the substance found in AX's pheraplex... It's called a "designer steroid", and like THG and norbolethone, are compounds which were originally designed to bypass classical doping tests. They were never commercially marketed, although THG has been used since some years. DMT is the newest compound of those designer steroids, therefore it is not a controlled substance yet. And I've mentioned ergomax because you find both isomers of DMT, namely 2-ene and 3-ene in a 7:2 ratio if I can recall correctly.
Yes, 17a = 17-alpha, etioallocholan is another name used for 5a-androst; it is used in place because of the 2004 law making prohomorones illegal. Its a way to "fly under the radar" so to speak. Using the "evil" word "andro" would draw more attention to it.so 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol and 17alpha-methyl-5alpha-androst-2-en-17b-ol are the same thing?
just look around before you order. IBE has some problems right now, and you should see what's going on.That's a tough one. SD is not very androgenic, but besides that, there is SOME risk in almost everything. Heck, even trimax can cause gyno.
Your best bet would be Oratropin-1 and Hexatropin stacked together or just Oratropin-1 if you can't afford both. Or p-GH and Long R3 IGF-1 from MR... X-Factor or Adonis X (Arachidonic [sp?] acid) is also good. You can stack that with GH and IGF.
Now with GH and IGF, don't expect your strength to go through the roof overnight, these are NOT androgens. Will they make you bigger, leaner and stronger? Yes.
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