Cutting calories, fine tuning.
- 08-04-2005, 08:51 AM
Cutting calories, fine tuning.
Looking for general opinion.. to help me make up my mind on how to proceed.
I've started a cutter, the main components being test enan/tren enan (test prop front and back), and for a 8 week stint t3/mp in the middle. My diet is solid as they come.. just a slightly modified version of the diet bobo had me on before the cycle.. broken into one extra meal per day.. 7 meals total, with only an extra bagel thrown in.
My questions is... How should I proceed to cut calories? I hold water like a beotch(I've cut table salt out of my diet entirely to help), and history has showed me that I have a strong capacity to build muscle even while in a tremendous calorie deficit (I was ignorant when I started dieting.. some would say I still am. ). I want to take advantage of this cycle to the best of my ability, I will be sticking to diet and training like white on rice. I'm determined to burn fat as my number one priority... I'd like to see 1-2 pounds burnt off a week, no more then that. My problem is, I gain water so easily, my weight is climbing steadily right now, and it's only day 4. Coupled with the fact, I'm undoubtedly going to add a fair amount of muscle mass?
How to proceed? Right now I plan to go as is for 3-4 weeks, and hopefully allow my water weight etc... to come to some sort of balance. At that point, Do I adjust diet until I show a drop of 1-2 pounds a week? Or would I be better to adjust until I show just an average of 1 pound a week? Or perhaps I should adjust until I show loss of 0 pounds a week, and assume that I'm gaining 1 pound of muscle mass a week?
Basically I'm just looking for advice, or personal thoughts on the matter... I'm not expecting a definitive answer... Just input.. Something I can chew on.
Here's the whole thing...
Originally Posted by Poobah
- 08-04-2005, 10:26 AM
the more water you drink the less you'll hold .. try to drink 2 gallons a day .. it should help lower your adh levels .. although you'll be pissing your brains out all day
- 08-04-2005, 11:09 AM
i gotta give props to bobo, it's good to see a trainer who doesnt count carbs out of a leaning down diet, smart guy, good luck on everything
08-04-2005, 11:09 AM
I'm a big believer in that.. I usually drink a litre with every meal and a litre between every meal... that's about 14 litres, or about 3 gallons a day.. +at the gym I usually drink a 1 gallon.. So I average about 3-4 gallons a day.. heheOriginally Posted by glenihan
And I do piss alot... Luckily my bladder is huge. (one of the more embaressing things I'm known for... I have drank a 24 before needing to relieve myself.. although 1 didn't make such feats a habit, I usually had a leak after my 12th beer. )
p.s. I don't drink alchohol anymore.
08-04-2005, 11:14 AM
Roger that.. my eyes really popped when I first saw the diet he had me on originally.. It was actually 3500+ calories a day at first and I was still losing. Generally It's a very good diet hunger wise, which really surprised me... the only down side, it gets real boring munching that tuna and chicken breast every single day. its just something you gota get use to if your serious...Originally Posted by FreakNasty22
I should also mention I'm no longer with bobo... and it's fair to say, I don't think he would agree with what I'm doing now.. which is understandable. I have lots respect for him, just striking out on my own.
And thanks for the good luck wishes.
08-04-2005, 12:10 PM
thats one hell of a cycle, if you have never used t3 before, be careful using 100mcg, especially with all that gear. your bp is gonna be thru the roof for sure, work you way up slowly--theres no rush.
08-04-2005, 12:13 PM
Thanks.. I guess I didn't note it.. but I will be ramping up, and ramping down even slower over the course of those 8 weeks.. I have used t3 before with mdien/m4ohn and had no issues of note... Depending on bp and other sides, I'm entertaining the prospect of going to 125mcg for a short time.Originally Posted by Boss_K
08-04-2005, 06:36 PM
I'd just say to hell with losing weight on a scale basis. Get yourself a set of calipers and a tape in order to track your actual body composition changes on cycle. If you can easily add muscle and still burn off a few pounds of fat per week, I say why not take advantage of that?
08-04-2005, 07:03 PM
That would be the optimum plan.. but it's tricky business taking those measurements..Originally Posted by max silver
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