Clen during PCT
- 08-03-2005, 12:51 PM
Clen during PCT
I have been on clen for about 8 days now, currently at 100mcg, and I must say, I've gained strength, leaned out a bit, and have lost the bloat from my cycle.
Here are my pre-post-current stats:
These are just a few measurements. I am pleased to say that the size lost on the arms is due to water loss, as strength is still climbing and I look a lot more defined than while on. Currently I am nearly half-way through my 2nd week of a 4-week PCT. I feel recovered, as my libido is normal again, although only blood results will tell. I will have some bloodwork done with the conclusion of my PCT.
- 08-03-2005, 01:00 PM
- 08-03-2005, 08:28 PM
have you used clen before? Do you plan on increasing or tapering the dose or keeping it at 100 mcg? I'm paranoid about trying it myself, but more power to you. And yeah, what was your cycle?
08-03-2005, 08:36 PM
The cycle wasn't anything hefty IMO.. Just Max LMG and Ergomax LMG stacked for 5 weeks.
I may keep it here for another day or two, then up it to 120 and see how that feels. I have been running benadryl with it, so my receptors should be fairly cleansed by the time I redose the following day. I may end up staying here, as 100mcg keeps me wired all day.
08-03-2005, 08:42 PM
yeah i just stopped my stacker2's as I'm on a hefty AAS cycle (deca/dbol/sust with winny/primo later on) and I want to get the most out of it, and then start the Stacker's again during the last 2 weeks to get rid of the H2O and lean out (with the help of Winny and Primo). I've heard some horror stories about clen, but i guess i could always start crazy low with dosing, like 40 mcg a day. I'd love being wired all day, as some of my shifts top out at 36 hours in duration. I'd prolly get hooked on it LOL. But good job with your cycle and keep it up!
08-04-2005, 12:03 AM
Yeah, I started at about 20mcg to tell you the truth. I didn't feel much from that, so I upped the dose until I got a good buzz for the entire day, but with the ability still to sleep at night. Thankfully I've found that dose, and it seems to be ~100mcg/day.
Thanks for the luck man!
08-04-2005, 08:58 AM
Good job on starting low and working your way up.Originally Posted by Anarchy939
Everyone should test their tolerance to clen at lower doses then work up to the lowest effective dose.
08-05-2005, 07:04 AM
Since clen and ephedrine are soo similar (i.e. both Beta 2 agonists originally designed to treat asthma), would it be fair to say that since I can tolerate ephedrine I can tolerate Clen? Obviously not in the same doses, but I mean just purely objectively...any thoughts??
08-05-2005, 08:54 AM
different. You'll still have to start low and ramp it up.Originally Posted by Guido
Clen is a PCT staple for me now, unless I bump it entirely in favor of albuterol.
08-05-2005, 05:42 PM
I can handle ECA just fine- I tried clen and during my second cycle I got vertigo from it.Originally Posted by Guido
I was dosing properly and didn't get above 60 mcg's on my second cycle. First cycle I
got up to 120 mcg's. If you do it just be really careful and listen to your body.
I won't touch it anymore- everyone's different though.
08-05-2005, 06:20 PM
Yeah I really dont think I'm gonna mess with it. i got tremendous results from Stacker2's but I just needed to get off them for a few weeks to up-regulate my beta receptors. Its working out nicely though because of my current cycle (DBol, Deca, Sust), now that I stopped the Stacker's my appetite is through the roof and I can pack on some serious mass and then kick out the water and hopefully some of the fat during PCT when I re-introduce the stacker's.Originally Posted by Sea223
08-07-2005, 10:25 AM
I will be starting PCT in a few weeks and plan on using clomid and clen up to 80mcg-100mcg are there any precautions to taking these two together. I have taken many cycles and PCT's but never taken clen before.
08-07-2005, 03:35 PM
I don't want to piss in your cheerios, but the water loss and leaning out would occur with or without clen. That's a perfectly normal PCT IMO. Adding clen does nothing, just makes you jitter. I find clen extremely overrated in all ways except for vascularity.
08-07-2005, 07:11 PM
haha piss in my cherrios, never heard that one before, mad props. Well I just wanted to use something like clen or ephedrine to curb my appetite and get back on a calorie restricted diet after this crazy bulk i'm on right now and will be for the next 10-12 weeks (day 16 - up 9 lbs, some upper ab bloating but pants are actually fitting LOOSER). But i'm not gonna use clen then or ever. I'll just stick with the stacker's.Originally Posted by Interficium
08-07-2005, 10:33 PM
consider this:Originally Posted by Interficium
PCT weeks= low test levels.
PCT needs high (enough) calories to feed new muscle (keep gains).
High cals and low test levels can mean fat gain, if you aren't very careful (even with a super clean diet).
Adding clen and keeping high (enough) cals means less likelihood of fat gain AND keeping muscles well fed.
Theory? Yes, but I tried it and it worked well.
08-09-2005, 07:53 AM
i'm planing to take clen, but unfortunately, where i live they dont know clen, whats it made of ?? whats the medical name of it?
08-09-2005, 01:10 PM
08-10-2005, 04:25 AM
thx Blown, i meant is it beta 2 adrenergic agonist or somthing else??
Originally Posted by Blown
Last edited by Mess; 08-10-2005 at 04:26 AM. Reason: adj
08-23-2005, 10:27 AM
08-23-2005, 12:54 PM
No problem mess, yes you got it exactly right, clenbuterol is a beta 2-adrenergic agonist. Great chemical, works wonders for me.
That fine piece in my avatar is Lanny Barbie, a french-canadian porn star. Yum.
08-25-2005, 08:48 AM
08-25-2005, 09:00 AM
08-25-2005, 09:28 AM
Hehe, my first time using clen, I had been dieting and doing massive cardio for the previous 16 weeks. I started using clen, but couldn't do cardio with it because my calves cramped up immediately.
The thing is, I still lost fat like 2 times faster on the clen and no cardio than I did with ECA and lots of cardio. Only went up to 80mcg that time. Unfortunately I haven't gotten those kind of results from clen ever since. I have a feeling that for me, a lower dose is more effective. I wonder if the higher dose shut down my beta receptors too fast.
09-04-2005, 01:36 PM
does everyone take their dosage of clen in the morning or do they split it into 2 doses, 1 morning, 1 night?
i started at 20 mcg in the am, and didnt notice anything. im only a couple days in, but im just doing morning doses and am now at 40 mcg. my hands shake a little, but other than that, nothing to report of
09-05-2005, 07:54 PM
when using clen for retaining muscle during pct, does one need to up the calories (when coming off cycle and starting clen) to offset the clen?
09-05-2005, 10:43 PM
clen is NOT anabolic in humans .. we do not have enough beta 2 receptors .. a terrible choice for retaining muscle during pct
09-06-2005, 12:45 AM
I agree with glenihan, clen is garbage.Originally Posted by glenihan
Heart palpatations, nervousness.. cardiac arrest risk is compounded when used in conjunction with AAS.... not worth it. I hated it when I used it, and during PCT I'm too focused on keeping my gains, rather than cutting up and possibly losing them.
09-06-2005, 01:57 PM
09-06-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by chasec
AMEN...I love it at times but sometimes i'm sitting in my office at 140mcg's and can't even fill out the bank deposit b/c my hands are shaking like im in a diabetic seizure.
09-07-2005, 05:29 AM
today is my second day of clen, starting at 40mcg and see where that will lead me besides its my first week in PCT
so far i like clen, alittle shakey(minor) , workout was awesome and cardio was even better, i think i'm in luvvvv
09-07-2005, 04:29 PM
clen worked great when i used it during PCT. the muscle/strength retention was way more pronounced than without it, and the vascularity was apparent also. i recommend just hitting it the first 2 weeks; it aint good for you after all.
09-08-2005, 02:21 AM
09-11-2005, 12:13 PM
well, yes and no. clen is never good for you...after 2 weeks it'll take close to 200mcg to get what 40mcg did for you at the beginning. if you take it the 1st 2 weeks of PCT when atrophy is greatest (test is lowest), you are using it the best way possible, IMHO. plus i can be pretty lethargic when PCT starts.Originally Posted by Mess
09-11-2005, 01:21 PM
09-11-2005, 03:52 PM
You can run clen longer with Ketitofen or Benadryl, cleansing the receptors somewhat.Originally Posted by Mess
09-12-2005, 01:55 AM
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