- 07-29-2005, 01:41 PM
Alright, I am almost 2 weeks into PCT and started Clen about 3 days ago.. I felt fine until I started Clen (for the most part). I haven't lost a pound actually, and am wondering if Clen causes severe lethargy.. I feel extremely sleepy and braindead. Is it just PCT blues, or is it possibly the clen?
- 07-29-2005, 02:23 PM
I felt anything but lethargic on clen...
what does your PCT look like?
how's the diet?
- 07-29-2005, 03:40 PM
Are you using Clomid??
07-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Nope. Right now I've got 1 more night's worth of Ultra HOT and will be using Novedex XT until I get some Ultra HOTTER. Here's how things are set up:Originally Posted by Old Guy
Week 1-1.5: 4 caps/night Ultra HOT (on day 9),
Week 1.5-2: 3 caps/night Novedex XT
Week 3: ?? Caps of Ultra HOTTER (or Novedex XT if HOTTER is for whatever reason not here yet)
Ultra HOT: Week 0-1.5
Novedex XT: Week 1.5-> Until HOTTER comes in
ZMA: Weeks 0-4
Clenbuterol: Days 7-21 (40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100/120/120/120/140/140/140)
ECA: Days 22-36
Benadryl: Days 7-21
07-29-2005, 04:26 PM
The PCT approach I am taking is of what is recommended on Avant Labs's site
-Diet is a 10% surplus, 40/30/30 split
-Training is as outlined on the Avant Labs' site, using 4 weeks of the 5s HST-style.
So far I feel like ****. I feel like I might as well be running clomid, with the depression and mood swings/anger. Haha. Each and every time I run PCT I always say to myself, "Damn, I'm never running any more cycles, this sucks ass," well, lets just say it doesn't seem so bad anymore once the little phase is over with.. This time though, no matter what I feel like I am going to take a huge break for the sake of my health and hormonal balance. I mean yeah being "on" rocks, but if you screw yourself up in the process, not only will "running anymore cyles" be out of the question, but you may never be able to train again, or perhaps live a normal life. Now this may be an extremety, but running too many cycles simultaneously is asking for trouble... and this is from recent personal experience..
Thanks for the help guys.
07-29-2005, 04:26 PM
Just wondering, I had a terrible "crash" the only time I ever used Clomid.Originally Posted by Anarchy939
Nolva/Clen plus a few other supps was a good PCT for me.
I actually kept gaining strength during and beyond PCT.
07-29-2005, 04:30 PM
I've got a question, have you ever gotten digestive/intestinal problems while on cycle, and if so, how long did it take your body to normalize? I ask, because right now my digestive system is out of whack still from my cycle and I can't eat/drink anything without getting painful bloating.. thanks.Originally Posted by Old Guy
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