[SOWarrior]

What is the chemical process that takes that place that causes the lethargy?


For example, with M1T, and then with 1AD w/o 4 AD. And for me, E...max is causing serious lethargy.

What is in the 4AD that combats the lethargy from happening?


And yes, I searched...
Thanks.

[Giantz11]

Bump, was wondering the same thing??

[revodrew]

I was expecting to be seriously tired all the time on the SD. This is one side effect that I can say I have not felt. Minor irritation in my nips, shrinkage, but no lethargy. Im surprised cause I am pretty lazy anyways.

[SOWarrior]

My lethargy is just from about 2 PM-6 PM. I'm good most of the time after that and before that. I am just wondering what is the actual cause of this lethargy?

[max-rot98]

What times are you dosing?

[SOWarrior]

10mg when I wake up at 6 AM with my shake and egg whites. Then 10mg at about 8 PM before I work out at 9 PM.

[Iron Warrior]

A while back there was a discussion about this and it was believed that it could be through M1T affecting blood glucose levels but who know's if there's anything more to it.

[SOWarrior]

So no one really knows?

[Sky9]

A while back there was a discussion about this and it was believed that it could be through M1T affecting blood glucose levels but who know's if there's anything more to it.

I remember this, PA put his two cents in and I think glucose levels was the cause, but dont quote me on this.

[Blown]

I thought it might be from lack of natural testosterone?

[bioman]

There really is no telling but I believe the low glucose level theory the most. The compounds that tire you out the most are also the ones that put lean mass on you the fastest and often burn fat in the process..M1T, 1-Test, SD.

I've noticed that if I binge and eat sloppy while cycling M1T, my lethargy is much improved for a short while.

So I'm betting the serious BBers who have perfect diets feel it the most.

[ryansm]

I would say a combination of things, but the main culprit being glucose levels.

[MaynardMeek]

a night with my mom!!!!








sorry, i had to put a stupid post in here

[bioman]

Mothers...definitely draining. I think there's a point where they start taking back all the energy that they put into raising us. lol

[OmarJackson]

superdrol made me very lethargic and gave me a cold.... thought i would add.

[rogermoore]

I thought it might be from lack of natural testosterone?

Then why the "real" steroids make you so often feel good, positively aggressive and horny ?

[SOWarrior]

Low glucose levels. Sounds good. Thanks.
Time to research glucose levels.

[Guido]

it's the hypoglycemia. Steroids inrease protein synthesis drastically and therefore require increased uptake of nutrients into the muscle cells. That's why it's imperative to eat every 2-3 hours to avoid this lethargy. Also, taking them with food helps.

[sesso]

i thought it was caused by being too lean?

[Guido]

i thought it was caused by being too lean?

well if you're 5% bodyfat and not eating enough calories to maintain your Basal Metabolic Rate, you will be very lethargic (this is also a form of hypoglycemia anyway). But for the rest of the population that is not that lean, it's caused by hypoglycemia. If I dont take my DBol with a decent sized meal it will put me almost to sleep. I have heard similar reports regarding Superdrol, Ergomax, and other oral AAS.

[BrumMac]

I'm on week 2 of a SD cycle and I can confirm it sure makes you lethargic. I feel tired about 30minutes after getting up!

[natiels]

I thought it might be from lack of natural testosterone?

I always thought it was this too, since a common symptom of needing HRT is lethargy.

I guess the glucose thing makes since. I never felt lethargic on SD, but i was eating like an animal.

[Robboe]

I would say a combination of things, but the main culprit being glucose levels.

Myself also - the lack of testosterone toe xcite the CNS and the reduce glucose filtering by the liver as it is being stressed by the metabolism of the methylated compounds.

Dianabol doesn't have the same lethargy associated with it, so it must do something that M1T and SD do not. Any ideas?

[shootmeagain]

Hmm..

I'm sure its complicated and involves blood glucose as well... but at the most basic level isn't it simply suppression of natural test? That's why an external source of test (4-AD converted) is such a help with M1-T, 1-AD, 1-Test, etc.

Isn't this also why so many people say that most (some say all) AAS cycles should be based with test?

[Guido]

Hmm..

I'm sure its complicated and involves blood glucose as well... but at the most basic level isn't it simply suppression of natural test? That's why an external source of test (4-AD converted) is such a help with M1-T, 1-AD, 1-Test, etc.

Isn't this also why so many people say that most (some say all) AAS cycles should be based with test?

im running dbol, test, and deca right now and I'm very lethargic. It's most likely from the hypoglycemia