1st cycle input. (How many threads say that?)

[RSX-S]

Hey guys. I'm about to step to the dark side, and wanted to run my proposed cycle by everyone.

The cycle will consist of P**Ph** products.

I have been training seriously for 3 years, and off and on for about 5. (2 years of not knowing wtf I was doing)

I'm 5'8" and weigh 170 right now. I'm about 12-13% BF. During this last winter I did get up to about 190 during an M1T cycle, but alot of that was fat and water. I cut back down for the summer, which is why I'm 20lbs. lighter.

Anyway, I think I'm going to run this for about 14 to 16 weeks. It will consist of Test E., EQ, and Test prop.

Weeks 1-3 Test prop 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-14 Test E. 600mg a week
Weeks 1-15 EQ 450mg a week
Weeks 16-20 Clomid PCT

I have Nolva on hand in case of gyno, and I also have A-dex which I may start taking .5mg EOD if I start bloating up real bad.

Diet will start about 3700 calories divided up to 6 meals a day.
Protein = 300grams
Carbs = 400grams
Fat = 100 grams (As much from good sources as possible)

If I don't feel like I'm gaining like I should, I'll up the calorie intake. I work as an auto technician, so I basically work outside about 10hrs a day, doing manual labor. I may have to up the calories out of the gate, I'm still unsure yet.

Training is going to be a 5 day split.

Sunday- Arms/Abs
Monday- REST
Tuesday- Back
Wednsday- Chest/Abs
Thursday- Legst/Calves
Friday- REST
Saturday- Delts/Traps

I decided to go with the test prop for the first few weeks to jump start the test, as I didn't want to start out with the typical D-bol jumpstart. Plus, 2 different compounds for a first cycle seemed good enough.

The test dosages seem high, because the gear is dosed more concentrated than normal.
Test prop is 100mg/ml
Test E. is 300mg/ml
EQ is 300mg/ml

So, I figure 1ml of Test E, and about .75ml of EQ twice a week should do the trick.

Well, if you made to the end of this post, thank you. Any feedback you may have would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks again!

 

[glenihan]

eq should stop a week before test e so the esters clear at the same time ... 600mg of test is unnecessarily high for a first cycle ... also injecting once a week with those esters is inferior to twice a week

i'm sure you don't want to hear this but at 170 and 13% bf you only have about 148 pounds of lean body mass .. you should eat a lot more and get your training down before using gear

 

[RSX-S]

I plan on injecting twice a week, lol, sorry I should have put that in there.

I guess, I could do .75ml of the Test E. and have 450mg a week of that and the EQ. Be better on the wallet. :lol:

Ok, stop the EQ a week before, oops. Thanks

I know, I probably shouldn't use yet. It's just available to me right now, and the temptation is killer.

Thanks for the advice. I'm open to all responses.

 

[sage]

Hey bro. Edited the product carrier just a bit. The dude I believe is private so shouldnt be mentioned. As for your cycle, some quick suggestions. First, if you have prop on hand, I would also end with the short ester testosterone propinate. This will allow you to jump straight into your PCT without taking a full weak break between your cycle and post therapy. I like the Enanthate plan, and the propinate dosage for the first 3 weeks. This is how I would run it. Good luck. You should pack on some size kid.

Test E weeks 1-12 @ 500mg/week
Test Prop weeks 1-3, 12-14 at 100mg/eod
EQ weeks 1-12 at 400-500mg/week
Post cycle weeks 14-17

Sage

 

[RSX-S]

Hey bro. Edited the product carrier just a bit. The dude I believe is private so shouldnt be mentioned. As for your cycle, some quick suggestions. First, if you have prop on hand, I would also end with the short ester testosterone propinate. This will allow you to jump straight into your PCT without taking a full weak break between your cycle and post therapy. I like the Enanthate plan, and the propinate dosage for the first 3 weeks. This is how I would run it. Good luck. You should pack on some size kid.

Test E weeks 1-12 @ 500mg/week
Test Prop weeks 1-3, 12-14 at 100mg/eod
EQ weeks 1-12 at 400-500mg/week
Post cycle weeks 14-17

Sage

Sorry about the product carrier thing, I didn't know. Thanks for editing it.

I think I like the idea of running the prop at the end. I didn't really think about it. I'll look into that.

lol, "kid". We're the same age. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks sage!

 

[Beelzebub]

agreed, close the cycle with testprop. smooth transition into PCT.