Trestolone, MENT, Any info out there on it?
- 07-27-2005, 09:29 AM
- 07-27-2005, 03:23 PM
Would you be able to make a suspension/solution with olive oil like you can SD powder? Or is PEG the only way. OO would be a lot easier option if you could. Any thoughts?
07-27-2005, 04:48 PM
I don't see why not. You could probably get 20-40mg/ml even w/out BA in solution or more for suspension.Originally Posted by sergeant
07-27-2005, 07:17 PM
I believe that this would be a very good method. Give it a shot? I'd love to see a log or two on this...Originally Posted by sergeant
07-28-2005, 03:28 PM
I think I just might give it a try in 6 weeks or so. Just cutting down with Prostanozol. It has worked really well with a CKD. I have actually lost BF and feel good, solid lifts, still strong. I will PCT with ActivTE, Camph, and rebound for 4 weeks. I have done a lot of PH's over the years and have been lifting for a long time. I have a good solid base but want to crank it up a notch.
I was thinking of making adding 1gm powder to 99 ml OO to make 10mg/ml solution and then doing 4 weeks of 20 mg, 30mg, 30mg,40mg. I will keep it at 20 or 30 if it works at the lower doses. I was also thinking of doing 20 mg of SD for week 5+6 to soldify things. Thoughts?
i have a couple of questions first, I have a ton of Nolva, will letro be necessary for a gyno flair. I am not concerned with the bloat. Will run ancillaries like pro liver and ALCAR. Anything else?
07-28-2005, 03:35 PM
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07-28-2005, 08:32 PM
I wasn't asking for a source. Where in that did I ever ask a question? I wouldn't trust a source someone threw up on a message board anyways.
07-28-2005, 08:37 PM
yeah, i guess not. I just wasnt sure if you knew the rule or not and wanted to warn you so you wouldnt get in trouble. Wasnt trying to lecture you or anything.Originally Posted by Brennon
07-28-2005, 08:39 PM
It's cool and understandable. I just don't know anyone that carries this as it's fairly new on the market from what I understand.
07-28-2005, 09:06 PM
I would definitely suggest using the letro or even some ATD product while on cycle to prevent estrogoen as this compound will aromatize.Originally Posted by sergeant
As far as the superdrol to finish up...you might want to give pheraflex a shot as its androgenic properties appear to be very high. Give you a good hardening effect after a potentially bloating cycle. Just a suggestion...
07-28-2005, 09:07 PM
07-29-2005, 05:21 AM
Pleas forgive mi ignorance, what is the acronym ATD. How much Letro would you suggest? Each Day or Every Other Day? THought that this compound was highly androgenic from what I have read, follow up with another androgen? Was thinking that the SD would really help get rid of the bloat. Maybe some MAX LMG instead, suppose to be dry and androgenic.
I also forgot to mention that this would be an oral solution, pinning is an impossibility for me.
Originally Posted by quigs
07-30-2005, 05:44 PM
ATD is the compound that DS rebound xt contains (1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione orOriginally Posted by sergeant
3,17-keto-etiochol-triene) it is an aromatase inhibitor. Giant nutrition also makes an ATD product for around $20. Most feedback from this product has been very good.
ATD alone...at a decent dose may be all you need to combat the estogen increase from this product.
As far as Letro, I'm not familiar enough with that compound to feel that I am comfortable/qualified to give you an estimated dosage. I will bump however in hopes that someone can help you out...
07-31-2005, 02:16 AM
0.1mg/d letro for any 'normal' cycleOriginally Posted by sergeant
0.2mg/d on a heavy cycle (over 600mg test/wk)
0.3-0.4mg/d max, no matter what kind of cycle
I rarely exceed 0.1mg/d. Very potent.
07-31-2005, 06:32 AM
What about 0.25 EOD? I believe the half life is more than 1 day.Originally Posted by DR.D
BTW what do u think of the supposed anti-progesterone activity of letro?
07-31-2005, 10:03 AM
That's a good plan too. It's got a ~2day t1/2 so that's equal to about 1.25mg/d. Letro has no direct anti-prog activity that I am aware of. It doesn't effect corticoid biosynthsis either. Indirectly, I can see how it may contribute.Originally Posted by Syr
07-31-2005, 11:00 AM
Dr. D what do you think about using a Steroidal AI like ATD on cycle for estrogen control instead of using Letro/Armidex. The concern here is for cholesterol levels. Would using a steroidal AI be good with a simple 500mg Test/week cycle?
07-31-2005, 11:32 AM
I like them better. 50mg ATD, 250mg Teslac (oral) or 25mg Examestane work very well and give a buffered/protracted effect. They are more expensive though, so I utilize letro at low doses usually. You may want to consider low dose clomid (~25mg/d) if cholesterol ratios/levels are a concern, but I like to save it for PCT mostly due to it's toxicity, especially stacked with orals. I am not as fond of A-dex and nolva, but they can be used with similar protocols.Originally Posted by brogers
07-31-2005, 03:20 PM
Thanks for all of the input, you replied to a reply that quoted .25, shoud have meant 2.5 ml eod if the half life is a day. That would equal 1.25 if my math is right?Originally Posted by DR.D
07-31-2005, 07:23 PM
Sorry, I meant 0.125mg/day! That's a pretty big difference (thanks for the correction)Originally Posted by sergeant
07-31-2005, 09:49 PM
I was looking at one of the board sponsors and they have it as 2.5 mg per ml. So that would be .1 ml every other day to get .125 every da based upon the half life. That seems like a pretty small amount. A bottle would last forever. Am I missing something?Originally Posted by DR.D
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