Switching from trt to 4-AD

[bradleyt1]

Hey guys so basically I have to take a break from trt until further notice.. however I really don’t want to go into a post cycle and def don’t want to stop cold turkey and crash.. so I was thinking to start throwing in some fusion androtest since it is a one step conversion to test and is obviously fast acting. Do you guys think that will help keep my test levels elevated enough? I have never seen anyone post blood work while on 4-androstenediol so I’m curious how well it could work. Just seems like a nice break from the needle. I really would like to Ray the minimal dose of androtest which is 3 caps a day and do bloods and then maybe do bloods again at 6 caps to kind of get an idea what it translates to I terms of comparability to injectable test?

 

[Godstrength]

Hey guys so basically I have to take a break from trt until further notice.. however I really don’t want to go into a post cycle and def don’t want to stop cold turkey and crash.. so I was thinking to start throwing in some fusion androtest since it is a one step conversion to test and is obviously fast acting. Do you guys think that will help keep my test levels elevated enough? I have never seen anyone post blood work while on 4-androstenediol so I’m curious how well it could work. Just seems like a nice break from the needle. I really would like to Ray the minimal dose of androtest which is 3 caps a day and do bloods and then maybe do bloods again at 6 caps to kind of get an idea what it translates to I terms of comparability to injectable test?

Why not use a transdermal?

 

[cheftepesh1]

There are plenty of options to choose from. Pills, transdermals and oils. Liquid labs makes a great liquid version. https://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product/liquid-labs-te/

 

[bradleyt1]

Why not use a transdermal?

Well by transdermal if you mean 4-ad the only company making real 4-Androstenediol is fusion supplements androtest and it’s oral caps cyclodextrin based.. on the other hand transdermal test i don’t have and don’t have any interest because I think with 4-ad there is real anabolic effect.. again guys 4-Androstenediol NOT 4-DHEA

 

[Godstrength]

Well by transdermal if you mean 4-ad the only company making real 4-Androstenediol is fusion supplements androtest and it’s oral caps cyclodextrin based.. on the other hand transdermal test i don’t have and don’t have any interest because I think with 4-ad there is real anabolic effect.. again guys 4-Androstenediol NOT 4-DHEA

No I mean testosterone...
You said not interested so that answered my question.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Well by transdermal if you mean 4-ad the only company making real 4-Androstenediol is fusion supplements androtest and it’s oral caps cyclodextrin based.. on the other hand transdermal test i don’t have and don’t have any interest because I think with 4-ad there is real anabolic effect.. again guys 4-Androstenediol NOT 4-DHEA

did deep... 4diol hasn't been on the market in like what... 20 yrs? I don't think what your trying will work.. you do realize the half life will have you back to baseline every 90 mins right? there is no way id do it.

 

[Smont]

Why do you have to take a break?

 

[bradleyt1]

did deep... 4diol hasn't been on the market in like what... 20 yrs? I don't think what your trying will work.. you do realize the half life will have you back to baseline every 90 mins right? there is no way id do it.

Yeah you’re right about the whole half-life issue with 4-ad. If anything I can continue my trt and maybe throw in 4-ad around preworkout time for a boost. Do you think it would noticeable since it’s so fast acting? Kind of similar to like using test suspension while on a long Ester like cypionate

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Yeah you’re right about the whole half-life issue with 4-ad. If anything I can continue my trt and maybe throw in 4-ad around preworkout time for a boost. Do you think it would noticeable since it’s so fast acting? Kind of similar to like using test suspension while on a long Ester like cypionate

I think most people used it pre work out, but the best pre work out was the PH to ment though.

 

[kenpoengineer]

Why do you have to “take a break from TRT”? There really isn’t an option to do this as TRT is mainly for life. Are you young? Did you think TRT was something you could stop. Can you shed some light on your reasons?

 

[Smont]

Why do you have to “take a break from TRT”? There really isn’t an option to do this as TRT is mainly for life. Are you young? Did you think TRT was something you could stop. Can you shed some light on your reasons?

Self medicated trt maybe? Don't really make sense to me

 

[bradleyt1]

I will be staying on course with trt which is not self medicated was just wondering about 4-ad as being a possible alternative to keeping test levels elevated without having to inject.. seemed like it worked back in the day when 4-Androstenediol was readily available. It’s tough to find any one who has used it because it was banned such a long time ago

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I will be staying on course with trt which is not self medicated was just wondering about 4-ad as being a possible alternative to keeping test levels elevated without having to inject.. seemed like it worked back in the day when 4-Androstenediol was readily available. It’s tough to find any one who has used it because it was banned such a long time ago

again just get a topical solution for your prescribed testosterone. after 40 mins there is nothing to worry about contamination wise.