AMS Liquid Vs Hi-Tech

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I just found out that for every 1ML of the AMS 1-andro liquid it really only has 20mg of 1-andro and the rest (100mg) is their liposome delivery matrix to total 120mg of their “proprietary blend”. The bottle itself doesn’t show how much 1-andro it actually has per ML it just shows 120mg/ML per serving of the “blend” which I did not recognize until now, and didn’t find out exactly how much 1-andro/ML the liquid has until I did a little extra research online. They claim that 100% of the 20mg 1-andro absorbs when in combination of their delivery matrix.....I’ve been taking 3 doses a day with the impression I was getting in 360/mg of 1-andro, so really I guess I’ve only been getting 60mg of 1-andro/day for the passed 4 weeks. I know everyone on the forums recommends 330/mg which is what I thought I was doing. Not sure if I should be upset about not seeing this before or what.

I just picked up hi-tech 1-test and androdiol to finish my last 2 weeks of my 8 week cycle. The 1-test clearly states on the bottle 110mg of 1-andro and 50mg of bergamottin. Wish I would’ve found the 1-test sooner and ran that for 8 weeks now. I kinda feel duped here.

What do you guys think??? Should I ditch the ams liquid, grab another bottle of each 1-test and androdiol and finish my last 4 weeks with the hi-tech product because it looks like I’ll actually be getting 330mg/day with their product over this 60mg with ams....
 
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I just found out that for every 1ML of the AMS 1-andro liquid it really only has 20mg of 1-andro and the rest (100mg) is their liposome delivery matrix to total 120mg of their “proprietary blend”. The bottle itself doesn’t show how much 1-andro it actually has per ML it just shows 120mg/ML per serving of the “blend” which I did not recognize until now, and didn’t find out exactly how much 1-andro/ML the liquid has until I did a little extra research online. They claim that 100% of the 20mg 1-andro absorbs when in combination of their delivery matrix.....I’ve been taking 3 doses a day with the impression I was getting in 360/mg of 1-andro, so really I guess I’ve only been getting 60mg of 1-andro/day for the passed 4 weeks. I know everyone on the forums recommends 330/mg which is what I thought I was doing. Not sure if I should be upset about not seeing this before or what.

I just picked up hi-tech 1-test and androdiol to finish my last 2 weeks of my 8 week cycle. The 1-test clearly states on the bottle 110mg of 1-andro and 50mg of bergamottin. Wish I would’ve found the 1-test sooner and ran that for 8 weeks now. I kinda feel duped here.

What do you guys think??? Should I ditch the ams liquid, grab another bottle of each 1-test and androdiol and finish my last 4 weeks with the hi-tech product because it looks like I’ll actually be getting 330mg/day with their product over this 60mg with ams....
Don't ditch it. Throw it in as extra. Every bit counts.
 

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Don't ditch it. Throw it in as extra. Every bit counts.
And now i find out Super Mandro is back on the market. LOL. Why couldn't that **** come out a month ago. Im just confused at this point...If the suggested intake is 330mg/daily why the hell would anyone ever buy this AMS liquid? I only purchased it because i thought the dosing was actually 120mg/ML....:yell:
 
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And now i find out Super Mandro is back on the market. LOL. Why couldn't that **** come out a month ago. Im just confused at this point...If the suggested intake is 330mg/daily why the hell would anyone ever buy this AMS liquid? I only purchased it because i thought the dosing was actually 120mg/ML....:yell:
They'd buy it for the same reason you did. We live and learn. :)
 

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They'd buy it for the same reason you did. We live and learn. :)
Ya it just sucks cuz I timed my cycle so that I’d be done in time for this big festival in Vegas in May and now I feel like I wasted a month of my time when I was really looking forward to this cycle. It’s been 30 days in today and I haven’t really experienced anything at all exciting with these liquid andros and now I feel like I know why..couple hundred bucks down the pooper I feel like.....
 

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I think what I’m just going to do is take the 1-test and androdiol as directed. Two pills a day of each, then end my nights with 1 liquid dose of each 1/4-andros until the bottles run out. I should have about 6-7 days left of the liquids so that’s between 18-21/ml of each left. So 18-21 days worth of topping my nights off with the liquids. I’ll just see how it goes I guess and take this as a learning lesson for my next cycle. I’m going to grab a couple bottles each of super Mandro And andro the Giant while they’re back in stock and save them For later on this year when I run another cycle. 90 servings at 110mg/serving, one bottle per 30 days, now that’s what I like to see haha.
 

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I found a lot of information regarding absorption rates based on the research study in 2013 in Texas w/ 1-Andro @ 330/mg a day doseage compared to recent Cyclosome delivery system (added in 2016 I believe) w/ Hi-Tech products, which boosts the absorption rate, leading you to only need the recommended dosing amounts the bottles say (specifically on hi-tech products with Cyclosome delivery system).

I think I’m just going to stick with that this first run and see how it goes and know how to move forward in the future for a next cycle.

blog.priceplow.com/supplement-news/cyclosome-liposome-cyclodextrin

In the article listed above they state that another tested poorly water soluble substance (curcumin/not DHEA) that also has a 3-6% absorption rate with no delivery system, combined with the Cyclosome delivery agent boosted its absorption up to 90%. They say they haven’t yet ran the actual tests on if DHEA will absorb 90% but since (curcumin) did with Cyclosome, they believe we can absorb just as much of their products (Hi-Tech w/ Cyclosome) if not more than what the 2013 Texas 1-Andro study was able to achieve with just the recommended dosage. The 2013 Texas study had their lab rats (humans) ingest 330mg/day (no Cyclosome Delivery) and only absorbed 3-6% leading to a daily absorption of about 20mg/day.

Now this leads me back to my AMS 1/4-Andro issue. If the Texas study testers only absorbed 20mg/day then you should be able to reach the same results with the AMS 1/4-andro liquid since they state there is 20mg/ML of 1-andro that has an absorption rate of up to 100% (not sure how true that is though) because of their liquid delivery system. And taking 2-3 doses a day of the AMS liquid would put you up to 40-60mg/day (if the Absorption rate in fact is 100%). The Texas study shows results as of 4 weeks running, but after 4 weeks of (3 - 1ML doses a day of both ams 1/4-andro) I really didn’t see any super crazy exciting results like case studies have shown so I doubt the absorption rate is 100%.

I’m excited to see what my last month on cycle has in store. I’m going to take 2 doses each a day of the hi tech 1-test and androdiol as the recommended dosage says and then top my nights off with 1 dose of each ams 1/4-andro liquid till the bottles run out and see how that does me. According to this research I should be able to achieve way more than 20/mg a day (post absorption) with the recommended hi-tech dosing alone so topping my nights off with the ams liquid should be a plus. We’ll see what happens I guess. Wish me luck lol.
 

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