17 Hydroxy-Mesterone. WTF!?
- 06-13-2005, 10:12 PM
17 Hydroxy-Mesterone. WTF!?
Has anybody heard of this stuff? It's a new supp from Vyotech if that tells you anything. I did some research on Hydroxymesterone and what I've found is that it is a corticosteroid and used in ophthalmic solutions under the brand name Medrysone to control inflammation. Apparently, it's not even the best option for ophthalmic inflammation.
According to Vyotech's marketing it increases test levels as much as Dianabol. They bill it as a legit replacement for M1T.
Vyotech doesn't have it on their website yet. I saw it in the back of this months Flex when I was flipping through at the bookstore this afternoon. They have a two page spread.
BTW, Mesterone (1-methyl DHT) is an androgen used in hormone replacement.
- 06-13-2005, 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by freaky
Either way, do a PubMed search and see what comes up in the abstracts.
- 06-13-2005, 10:32 PM
It's Vyotech so I figured it was bull****.
PubMed only comes back with info related to ocular inflammation. Are many people taking corticosteroids to bulk up?
06-13-2005, 10:43 PM
corticosteroids are almost always CATABOLIC.
06-13-2005, 11:21 PM
Exactly why I'm asking. I left off my rolleyes on my last statement.
06-14-2005, 09:45 AM
I would stay away from anything made by VyoTech. They are a shady company known to have bunk products. I did a log for Viraloid and sent some of it to a supp chemist. Turned out to be a weak plant sterol and after 4 weeks of taking it, both myself and the guy I was doing the log with noticed very little to no results. I wouldnt buy this stuff.
07-29-2005, 02:29 PM
I'm going to try 17 Hydroxy-Mesterone and see if it works well, i will post info as my cycle goes.
07-29-2005, 02:36 PM
Thats what I thought.Originally Posted by Nullifidian
07-29-2005, 04:38 PM
so is there no info on this? i saw a bottle in the store today.
07-29-2005, 04:44 PM
Have you not heard enough already?Originally Posted by wildman536
I don't mean to sound like a smart ass but I doubt there is much feedback on it, especially positive feedback.
07-29-2005, 04:48 PM
07-29-2005, 04:51 PM
Honestly bro, dont waste your time. Seriously. I can tell you right now, it's not going to work. Don't bother.Originally Posted by candmbiz
07-29-2005, 04:56 PM
i got my 2 bottles today i'm going to start taking it saturday.
07-29-2005, 05:02 PM
how can anyone say this product doesn't work when they haven't tried it. i will post my results soon.
07-29-2005, 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by candmbiz
Its because it comes from a no name company with a ****ty reputation. Even you post fantastic results, hardly anyone would believe you.
07-30-2005, 08:55 AM
WTF?? why is that?Originally Posted by MarcusG
07-30-2005, 08:31 PM
because it is the absolute truth. Both these "companies" have low opinions.Originally Posted by wildman536
Also, didn;t IDS have some dosing issues awhile back with their 1AD knockoff.
07-30-2005, 10:26 PM
Well, I can tell you that IDS Methyl 1 Test Extreme worked. I tried it even after all the skeptics said what they had to say about IDS. So, if this is suppose to succeed that, I'm very interested in your results. Good Luck candmbiz.
07-30-2005, 10:33 PM
I will let everyone know how it goes, I started today so we will see how it goes.My weight right now is 200 pounds.
07-30-2005, 10:34 PM
any of you tried the Finigenx-like product they have out called Testrenx? I have been unable to find any feedback as of yet on this product..
07-30-2005, 11:20 PM
keep us informed!!Originally Posted by candmbiz
07-31-2005, 11:01 AM
Are you kidding me? methyl 1-test is a very potent steroid. Of course it would work. It was available for cheap and every mom and pop supplement company sold it.Originally Posted by matt212
17 Hydroxy-Mesterone otoh is something new.
08-03-2005, 11:17 PM
Don't forget to keep us informed of your progress candmiz.
08-04-2005, 06:19 AM
Im a nurse and give corticoid "spelling" steroids to some patients in the form of
prednisone. Dude, dont **** with a corticoid steroid. They are not what you think. As far as I know corticoid steroids have no ability to put on lean muscle mass, infact they pretty much screw your body up. But it sounds to me like you are going to do it anyway, so good luck with that one.
08-04-2005, 08:16 AM
08-04-2005, 08:56 AM
"Has anybody heard of this stuff? It's a new supp from Vyotech if that tells you anything. I did some research on Hydroxymesterone and what I've found is that it is a corticosteroid and used in ophthalmic solutions under the brand name Medrysone to control inflammation. Apparently, it's not even the best option for ophthalmic inflammation."
because the guy states it in his first post on this thread.
08-04-2005, 09:13 AM
17-HD from Vyotech is actually 17-Halo-Methyl-Dianadrone. Perhaps somone will have success finding info on this somehwere???
08-04-2005, 01:04 PM
What Im seeing actually scares me a little. You have a shady company like Vyotech, which produced an obviously bad product with 0 worth like viroloid, producing dubious steroids and selling them as mass gainers. They lied about viroloid being a mass gainer, and I do mean lied, so why would they not pump some bull**** steroid out, sell it on an unsuspecting public, without a care of the consequences.
Im seeing a very bad possable future in supliments, where completly untested products are sold on the internet so that the true testers are niave 17-22 year olds who fall for an advertisement. Its only a matter of time before one of these steroids promotes tumor growth and kills people.
This prohormone ban is having the exact opposite effect that the fda wanted.
08-04-2005, 01:49 PM
I certainly agree with this comment^^Originally Posted by The Machine
08-06-2005, 01:34 PM
Guys, unless they are lying on the label, this is what is in it:
Amount Per Serving:
17- Halo-Methyl-Dianadrone: 400mg
Ge Gan (pueraria lobota)
Wild yam extract 100mg
Phosphatidyl choline 50mg
Citric acid 50mg
You all know what Smilax is. Ge Gan/Pueraria Lobata is none other than Kudzu, that wonderful vine that grows all over the south. It is a natural source of isoflavones...so it should stack great with the minute dose of Ecdy in this product N.O. Oliliacae is likely a plant from the lily family. Now all it needs is some Pansy juice!
And don't forget the amazing test boosting powers of Wild Yam Last time I ate a pound of Wild Yams I had a month long priapism, I gained 4" on my biceps, and I lost an inch of my hairline.
Also, what bunk ass methyl would need to be dosed at 400mg?
No one's going to die from this.
08-06-2005, 05:34 PM
Nor are they going to gain a pound.
01-27-2006, 09:01 PM
I don't know how true it is but I pulled this info about yam from IDS site promoting their product 17 Hydroxy Mesterone.
"Historically synthetic testosterone was created from the yam plant after discovering the hormonal structure of the yam plant was virtually identical to human testosterone. However, conclusive scientific data shows that the natural steroid Diosgenins of smilax attach to androgen receptors over 300% more efficiently than the yam . . meaning more androgen receptors are occupied . . . thus allowing for much faster protein turnover."
01-29-2006, 06:53 AM
The testers disappeared without reporting results.
01-29-2006, 08:50 AM
01-29-2006, 09:16 AM
01-29-2006, 10:35 AM
01-29-2006, 02:24 PM
I tried a sample cap of the HD.
I didn't notice ****.
And if wild yams were so damn good, I'd be growing them on the balcony of my apartment.
07-24-2007, 04:08 PM
catabolic steroids are the new hotness yo
07-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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