Tren cycles

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  1. Tren cycles


    Hey everyone. I recently purchased some tren and test which I was wanting to stack together but I have been doing some reading and have decided against it due to lack of knowledge on which estrogen blocker to take and how often to take it during a cycle. I would only run 1cc of test prop stacked with 1cc of tren twice a week. I purchased nolvadex but read it can increase my chances of gyno while on tren. I was reading about letrozole while in tren but that's where I ran into problems. Like how often to take it and how much cause I have heard and read conflicting stories and articles. Any help is appreciated.


  2. a Lot of problems here bro. First cycles, which I'm assuming this is, is Test only, preferably Test cyp or Enanthate. The reason for this is because testosterone will be the base of your future cycles so you need to know what sides etc you get from it and how to deal with them. Test prop needs to be pinned eod or at least M W F and can hurt, hence the test Cypionate recommendation.

    Secondly tren is a HARSH compound. This is not a drug you just take because it sounds cool. Seriously stay away from it for your first few cycles.

    You still need to do a lot more research. I suggest you google Test Cyp 12 week cycles. This will help planning, what to expect, common sides (and how to deal with them), AI's and most importantly PCT

    Regards.
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  3. Height, weight, age and training experience will also help. Also goals.
    If one were to combine the exhaust sound of Audi, the handling of BMW and the engines of Mercedes. You basically have a Porsche.
    German Blood Pride.

  4. Iím just gona throw this out there...if you do tren for your first cycle your gona have a bad time. lol. And there is a high likelihood you wonít want to cycle again. Just do test for your first cycle. Maybe an oral kicker for the first few weeks.

  5. This isn't my first cycle with test. I've taken sustanon with nolva as my e blocker. Right now I have tren200 test prop300 and test e250. I don't plan on taking the tren yet because of lack of knowledge on the product and how it reacts in my body and all. But the more I tried to google and find things to read the more I got confused. So I decided to make a thread and try to go straight for answers.
    Height- 5'10"
    Weight-165
    Age-27
    I lift weights 6 days a week and I lift more isolation than anything but I do switch it up from heavy to light here and there. I used to be a profession mma fighter who was injured then had a child. So just now I stick to lifting. So I would like to think I train a little harder than the average person at least.

    But what I really want to know is what is best to stack with tren? What is best to take during cycle for estrogen and things along them lines? How often to inject and everything? Just looking for a straight answer that won't conflict with anything.
    Please and thank you in advance.
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  6. I assumed it was your first because there is no real additional need for an AI when adding tren. If you need an AI with Test alone you need one with tren added... did you need an AI with Test solo? Just test and tren is plenty. What else would you want to add? And Iíd do injections twice per week for both. Can be in the same syringe just go from one vial to the other. This is in reference to test e and tren e. You can do prop also every other day or 3 days a week if you donít have enough Test e

  7. Youíre going to **** yourself up man. Why are you in such a hurry? I wouldnít even touch tren if it were my 5th cycle. Do wayyyy more research and thinking the pros vs cons on this. If you do go through with hopping on, just do some test cyp or enanthate at around 500mg per week for 12 weeks like jakz said.

  8. Nolva is a SERM, dude, not an AI. Yes, Nolva keeps estrogen from binding to breast tissue, but it won't keep your E2 levels down. I'm running it right now on trest ace, in addition to my AI. I think you need to do some more research before running another cycle, especially one with tren.

  9. Ok. So if someone had to give me a play by play how would I go about doing this?? Not saying I'm going to. I am not in a rush. I stated in earlier comments I wasn't going to take it cause of lack of knowledge. But what would you recommend for someone like myself? Cause I've googled things but I'm looking for real information cause it's my body. If I am to do something like this I do want to make sure it is done correctly.

  10. And tren aside... if I was to just take something like test e or test prop what would someone recommend to help keep my hormones in control?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by trd0130 View Post
    Ok. So if someone had to give me a play by play how would I go about doing this?? Not saying I'm going to. I am not in a rush. I stated in earlier comments I wasn't going to take it cause of lack of knowledge. But what would you recommend for someone like myself? Cause I've googled things but I'm looking for real information cause it's my body. If I am to do something like this I do want to make sure it is done correctly.
    Beginner tren cycle:
    1-12: Test E 200mg a week
    1-12: Tren E 400mg a week
    1-6: An oral you have taken before

    You shouldn't need much of an AI on this cycle (unless the oral is Dbol), but exactly how much will depend on your individual rate of aromatization.

  12. I think itís best to try and minimize the amount of compounds, including dosage when possible. So for a first, maybe 12 weeks of test enanthate at 500mg (can be pinned once a week, but two would be better.) Arimidex on hand; start at .5mg e3d if you do need to use it and adjust from there. Clomid 50/50/25/25 and nolva 20/20/10/10 post cycle. Thatís just a basic layout.

  13. Wait. Have you or have you not taken test by itself before? If by past cycles you meant orals...why did you even waste your $$ on tren. That is an expensive compound..

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    I think itís best to try and minimize the amount of compounds, including dosage when possible. So for a first, maybe 12 weeks of test enanthate at 500mg (can be pinned once a week, but two would be better.) Arimidex on hand; start at .5mg e3d if you do need to use it and adjust from there. Clomid 50/50/25/25 and nolva 20/20/10/10 post cycle. Thatís just a basic layout.
    Oh my bad, I just reread and saw that youíve done a sustanon cycle. Maybe just add in some equipoise or add an oral kickstart; no need to go straight to tren imo

  15. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicGuru View Post
    Oh my bad, I just reread and saw that youíve done a sustanon cycle. Maybe just add in some equipoise or add an oral kickstart; no need to go straight to tren imo
    Missed that also. Ok in that case...Iíd still just do test by itself again LOL

  16. Caber is must for me when running a 19-Nor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gridles View Post
    Caber is must for me when running a 19-Nor
    No it isnít. Iíve ran tren both on and off caber. Got more sides with caber. I say donít use it unless you have discharge or high prolactin sides. Cause the sides from caber can be just as bad.

    Edit: sorry man didnít see the for me part lol

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    No it isnít. Iíve ran tren both on and off caber. Got more sides with caber. I say donít use it unless you have discharge or high prolactin sides. Cause the sides from caber can be just as bad.

    Edit: sorry man didnít see the for me part lol
    No worries man, i understand we are all just trying to be helpfuI. I actually can appreciate it as I've gained a lot of information from people like you who post based their real life experiences.

    Just curious what your Caber dosage was. Was it more than .25mg twice a week?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Gridles View Post
    No worries man, i understand we are all just trying to be helpfuI. I actually can appreciate it as I've gained a lot of information from people like you who post based their real life experiences.

    Just curious what your Caber dosage was. Was it more than .25mg twice a week?
    I think I tried it at both .5 twice a week and .25, but I just felt weird mentally like I couldnít focus on what I wanted to think about and it increased my anxiety...at the time I didnít know what it was and assumed it was the tren since that was my first time running it. But next go round I decided to try it without caber and it went smoother. I suspect some sides that people attribute to tren may actually be from the dopamine agonists they are running. Obv tren can cause many issues all by itself but after trying multiple different D2 agonists (also used ropinorol and prami) they each give similar sides. Ropinorol was the worst actually. Felt like I had the flu an hour after taking it.

  20. Appreciate the response. I think I might hold off with it in the beginning on my next run and just monitor the situation, first sign of growing milk ducts I'll start with .5 twice a week!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Gridles View Post
    Appreciate the response. I think I might hold off with it in the beginning on my next run and just monitor the situation, first sign of growing milk ducts I'll start with .5 twice a week!
    Also I need to mention I was using letro since Iím pretty estrogen sensitive. So this might have mitigated any increased prolactin b/c Iím pretty sure you need high ish estrogen to really get issues like lactating though it could happen without help of E2...I think it has to do with E2 increasing the sensitivity of breast tissue to prolactin. Not 100% if thatís true but read it somewhere lol

  22. @Mike33512 I've always preferred nolva over a normal ai on cycle but that's just me. Not a lot of tren experience here tho

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Smont View Post
    @Mike33512 I've always preferred nolva over a normal ai on cycle but that's just me. Not a lot of tren experience here tho
    That's awesome, man. I wish I could do that, but I definitely need an AI. High E2 sides hit me hard: insomnia, fatigue, ED, etc. It's horrible. I seem to produce a lot of it, too.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mike33511 View Post
    That's awesome, man. I wish I could do that, but I definitely need an AI. High E2 sides hit me hard: insomnia, fatigue, ED, etc. It's horrible. I seem to produce a lot of it, too.
    I have to use 2.5 letro daily with aromatizing compounds sometimes more. I feel your pain

  25. ok so if I was just gonna stick to taking my test what would the play by play be for that?? Cause I think I was misinformed before... but I have test e 250 and test prop 300 and nolvadex for the pct. What would I take with my test to control my hormones?? And would it be better to just take one at a time or take both just less of each at a time?? Please and thank you all for helping answer my questions.
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