Maximum dosage 1 andro?

[JoePaul39]

Hi,

I am running my first cycle of 1 andro using Hi Tech Pharma's 1 Testosterone It will be an 8 week cycle. I did the first 4 weeks at 330mg a day and plan on doing the final 4 weeks at 440 Mg a day. My question is more in relation to future cycles, not this cycle as I don't plan on going over 440mg for this one-What is the maximum dosage a user can typically run 1 andro at before seeing no additional returns?

I have heard various opinions on this such as "don't go over 330mg a day" (the dosage used in the study) and that anything over that is just throwing your money away. While I have seen some companies that resell supplements say you can go as high as 900-1000 mg (this seems quite high to me and I question their motivation as they are in the business or reselling this compound). A consultant for Olympus Labs said you can go as high as 800 to 900 mg a day. .Has anyone ran this prohormone at this level and did they experience increased results? Also, if known, how was the post cycle blood work for liver, lipids, kidneys, etc?

 

[dvw]

Dont go above 440 mgs. You will just be wasting money.

 

[JoePaul39]

Thanks.

 

[dvw]

If possible take 110 mg tablets spaced evenly throughout the day. I would run a 10% calorie surplus. Lean Gainz of 10 lbs in 6 weeks is probable.

 

[Bestia956]

Hi,

I am running my first cycle of 1 andro using Hi Tech Pharma's 1 Testosterone It will be an 8 week cycle. I did the first 4 weeks at 330mg a day and plan on doing the final 4 weeks at 440 Mg a day. My question is more in relation to future cycles, not this cycle as I don't plan on going over 440mg for this one-What is the maximum dosage a user can typically run 1 andro at before seeing no additional returns?

I have heard various opinions on this such as "don't go over 330mg a day" (the dosage used in the study) and that anything over that is just throwing your money away. While I have seen some companies that resell supplements say you can go as high as 900-1000 mg (this seems quite high to me and I question their motivation as they are in the business or reselling this compound). A consultant for Olympus Labs said you can go as high as 800 to 900 mg a day. .Has anyone ran this prohormone at this level and did they experience increased results? Also, if known, how was the post cycle blood work for liver, lipids, kidneys, etc?

You need a test base like 4 andro

 

[Afi140]

I would do 400-500 but not much over that. Definitely have some form of a base but you should be aware of how your body responds to lethargy at this point.

 

[user567]

Hi,

I am running my first cycle of 1 andro using Hi Tech Pharma's 1 Testosterone It will be an 8 week cycle. I did the first 4 weeks at 330mg a day and plan on doing the final 4 weeks at 440 Mg a day. My question is more in relation to future cycles, not this cycle as I don't plan on going over 440mg for this one-What is the maximum dosage a user can typically run 1 andro at before seeing no additional returns?

I have heard various opinions on this such as "don't go over 330mg a day" (the dosage used in the study) and that anything over that is just throwing your money away. While I have seen some companies that resell supplements say you can go as high as 900-1000 mg (this seems quite high to me and I question their motivation as they are in the business or reselling this compound). A consultant for Olympus Labs said you can go as high as 800 to 900 mg a day. .Has anyone ran this prohormone at this level and did they experience increased results? Also, if known, how was the post cycle blood work for liver, lipids, kidneys, etc?

How has the first 4 weeks been? Any gains?

 

[criticalbench]

Honestly, I can't say to really go over 440mg.. but I would personally be very interested to see the results of someone pushing the envelope so to say. 1-Andro is a fairly safe hormone to go high with. I wouldn't be surprised if someone pushed those high doses tbh. If you do try it, I'd be very curious, but working for Hi-Tech.. all I can say is, "Dont"

 

[JoePaul39]

How has the first 4 weeks been? Any gains?

I gained 3 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks. I have been doing this more as a cut to lose body fat, not so much to gain muscle, so I haven't been eating extra calories.

 

[JoePaul39]

Honestly, I can't say to really go over 440mg.. but I would personally be very interested to see the results of someone pushing the envelope so to say. 1-Andro is a fairly safe hormone to go high with. I wouldn't be surprised if someone pushed those high doses tbh. If you do try it, I'd be very curious, but working for Hi-Tech.. all I can say is, "Dont"

Well I certainly am not going to volunteer to be the Ginny pig lab rat that does go to those high doses LOL! After hearing some of the responses on here, I have had some second thoughts and gone back down to 330 mg and will not be going above it. Hi Tech's bottle says to only take 220 mg a day, but the study was at 330 mg so that is what I am taking, so I am already 110 mg above what the manufacturer says to take. I think for future cuts, rather than increasing the 1 andro dosage the safer route would be to stack with Epi-Andro.

 

[Chasingtails]

I've been taking 550mgs/day for the past 4 weeks (with the same amount of 4 andro and 1200mgs/day of epiandro), and I'm loving it. Gained about 6 pounds eating at a 700 calorie deficit over 3 weeks and I've since bumped up the cals to see how much I can gain by the end of the cycle

Oh, and I have literally had zero side effects. I keep expecting something bad to happen, but it thankfully hasn't

 

[dvw]

I've been taking 550mgs/day for the past 4 weeks (with the same amount of 4 andro and 1200mgs/day of epiandro), and I'm loving it. Gained about 6 pounds eating at a 700 calorie deficit over 3 weeks and I've since bumped up the cals to see how much I can gain by the end of the cycle

Is your blood pressure gone up at all at 550mg ? I would imagine at 3 weeks your strength should be way up at that dosage.

 

[JoePaul39]

I've been taking 550mgs/day for the past 4 weeks (with the same amount of 4 andro and 1200mgs/day of epiandro), and I'm loving it. Gained about 6 pounds eating at a 700 calorie deficit over 3 weeks and I've since bumped up the cals to see how much I can gain by the end of the cycle

Oh, and I have literally had zero side effects. I keep expecting something bad to happen, but it thankfully hasn't

What do you have planned for your post cycle therapy? I would consider blood work tests a couple months after your cycle to be safe to ensure your liver, kidneys, lipids etc. are ok before doing another cycle.

 

[Chasingtails]

Is your blood pressure gone up at all at 550mg ? I would imagine at 3 weeks your strength should be way up at that dosage.

BP has not elevated at all, which surprised me because I normally run a little high. Low dose cialis and cycle assist appear to have helped

And yes, strength has gone up immensely in some areas. Prior to this cycle, I had been stuck repping 185 (usually 4 sets of 6ish reps) on flat bench for several months. After two weeks I was at 4x5 of 225, and this morning I cranked out a set of 4 at 245.

Progress elsewhere has been much slower, but its progress nonetheless. DL max has gone from 400 to around 420, but squats have stayed about the same. Shoulder definition has gotten much better, but strength hasn't gone up much (old injury).

 

[Chasingtails]

What do you have planned for your post cycle therapy? I would consider blood work tests a couple months after your cycle to be safe to ensure your liver, kidneys, lipids etc. are ok before doing another cycle.

I don't have another cycle in the works. I'm sure I'll do it at some point, but it'll be a while.

PCT is clomid, kings blood, and erase (if needed). Then I've got some DAA to throw in after that

 

[criticalbench]

Well I certainly am not going to volunteer to be the Ginny pig lab rat that does go to those high doses LOL! After hearing some of the responses on here, I have had some second thoughts and gone back down to 330 mg and will not be going above it. Hi Tech's bottle says to only take 220 mg a day, but the study was at 330 mg so that is what I am taking, so I am already 110 mg above what the manufacturer says to take. I think for future cuts, rather than increasing the 1 andro dosage the safer route would be to stack with Epi-Andro.

Total hormone mg is what matters most IMO.. sometimes it is safer to take the dose of 1 hormone higher rather than stacking multiple hormones if the total mg of all hormones totals a high number. Keep that in mind for future cycles! Hope that makes sense!

 

[JoePaul39]

Total hormone mg is what matters most IMO.. sometimes it is safer to take the dose of 1 hormone higher rather than stacking multiple hormones if the total mg of all hormones totals a high number. Keep that in mind for future cycles! Hope that makes sense!

So would you say taking 660 mg 1 andro is equivalent to taking 330 mg 1 andro stacked with 330 mg 4 andro in terms of safety? Also, I was thinking of trying Gaspari's Halodrol next cycle. Is that the strongest stacked combo prohormone Hi-Tech sells?

 

[mikeonopiates]

I am about to run hi-tech's 1 testosterone at 440mg with decabolin at 150/225mg a day. Will keep you updated on mass and strength gains.