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So an interesting idea came on a previous post I made.
Previously on a 1:1 test and tren short ester cycle I had libido/ED issues. I dropped the dose of the tren on week 5 and was running a 2:1 ratio for the reminder. The sex drive got better but nothing amazing and the ED would come and go.
So the interesting comment was that if I ran high tren low test I likely would not have that problem. Which seemed strange because when I lowered the tren it got a bit better.
So my question is; If I run long esters of Test/Tren/ mast and I keep the test around 200mg and the tren/mast at 400-500mg... will I likely have no libido issues? I'm probably going to have caber on hand in case, but I'd like to know the opinion of people who have ran similar cycles.
 
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Bro...theres no guarantees. But its about trying to minimise unecessary "risk", and finding your trest:test sweet spot. Personally, I think starting with a trt dose of test is most reasonable. It should generate the least sides.
 
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I ran moderate Test to moderate high Tren with Adex and Caber, and never had any libido issues.

I have heard that low Test and moderate to high Tren is the way to go if you get bad side effects otherwise.
 

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Well if you took caber or prami on it then that's why you experienced no issues when you were on it. From my understanding caber is a life saver with tren. Unfortunately my only source of caber is $300. So if I didn't need it, it would be nice.
I know everyone is different, but if I lowered tren to increase my libido... I just can't make sense of the idea that I wouldn't have libido issues on low test high tren.... can anyone help make sense of that?
 
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Why would you necessarily have libido issues? Trt dose of test should have all your levels primed in the physiological range. So, minimal aromatisation.

Why would you want a supraphysiological dose of test if the purpose of it in your tren cycle is to best generate a "normal" libido environment?

I think its pretty straight forward: with tren, youre going to do best keeping e2 within range. Supraphys doses of test are going to make this more difficult.
 
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I think its pretty straight forward: with tren, youre going to do best keeping e2 within range. Supraphys doses of test are going to make this more difficult.
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This still confuses me, I've dropped the tren and I have 0 libido issues. So how could test have been the issue. I've run test before and never have had any problems. Soon as I start tren the libido issues start, soon as I'm off it they go away. I just don't understand how I could run low test high tren and not have the same issue because all I can gather is that tren is the cause.
 
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This still confuses me, I've dropped the tren and I have 0 libido issues. So how could test have been the issue. I've run test before and never have had any problems. Soon as I start tren the libido issues start, soon as I'm off it they go away. I just don't understand how I could run low test high tren and not have the same issue because all I can gather is that tren is the cause.
We've already answered this question. Stop over thinking it. Prolactin was probably raised from the estrogen from the test and tren combo
 
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Well if you took caber or prami on it then that's why you experienced no issues when you were on it. From my understanding caber is a life saver with tren. Unfortunately my only source of caber is $300. So if I didn't need it, it would be nice.
I know everyone is different, but if I lowered tren to increase my libido... I just can't make sense of the idea that I wouldn't have libido issues on low test high tren.... can anyone help make sense of that?
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