Week 5 of LGD cycle, anyone else experience these symptoms?

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Hey everybody, Happy 4th of July to my fellow Americans. I started week 5 of my OL Legend, Super-4 Elite cycle. Yesterday I decided to bump my dose up to 12 mg ED, this morning at the gym After taking my LGD I felt extremely Nauseous and overall kinda crappy while working out. I think iv'e seen some other reports of people experiencing nausea, is there any way to combat this? Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 
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happy 4th to you too

easy solution, drop the dose. dont need 12 mg especially with the other stuff (not sure what dose your running) but 6-10 LGD
 
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Appreciate the response, the other thing i'm running is 220 mg 4-androstene 3b-ol 17-one. I wasn't planning on going above 8mg, but after reading comments from a number of other people, (some dosing as high as 20mg) I thought i would give 12mg a try, seeing as i have 2 bottles, and there's no way i'll finish the bottle, even running it at 12mg for the last three weeks.
 
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I was actually wondering if splitting up the dose would be advisable, I know LGD has a long half life, but does that mean you need to dose all at the same time. JW.
 
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I was actually wondering if splitting up the dose would be advisable, I know LGD has a long half life, but does that mean you need to dose all at the same time. JW.

with the LHL, for me personally I kept the dose at the same time every day. That is one possibility and just monitor how you are doing after 3 or 4 days otherwise just reduce down.

gains are great but no reason to feel like sh!t trying to get them
 
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Very true, thanks for the advice, much appreciated!
 

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Eh not unless I go to Albertsons, and use there's I don't have a blood pressure monitor.
If its bp related, smiths recc to drop dose may do trick. Itd be good to have some sort of way to measure, though. You afford one? Shouldnt be too expensive for a basic cuff model, and they damn handy at ruling out some symptom causes (and catching potential probs early).
 
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If its bp related, smiths recc to drop dose may do trick. Itd be good to have some sort of way to measure, though. You afford one? Shouldnt be too expensive for a basic cuff model, and they damn handy at ruling out some symptom causes (and catching potential probs early).
^^^This for sure. If using hormonals a digital bp cuff is a worthwhile investment. Can be as cheap as 15-20 bucks. Also, certain compounds give me blood pressure spikes after dosing hence why I sometimes spread out the doses even if a long half-life doesn't necessitate split dosing. The BP cuff is handy for figuring out things like that.
 
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happy 4th to you too

easy solution, drop the dose. dont need 12 mg especially with the other stuff (not sure what dose your running) but 6-10 LGD
Well thats simply untrue, lgd is very average until you reach 12mg then gets good.
 
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Well thats simply untrue, lgd is very average until you reach 12mg then gets good.
if you want to bulk, you can stick with 5- cut effect will start at 10- no reason to take anymore of this. I never ran caps and those who I have spoken with agree that 10+ is overkill. but hey your body
 
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I've done several cycles of lgd and have never experienced those symptoms. In terms of side effects, lgd is the mildest in my experience. Even osta gives me more sides that lgd.

Edit: every cycle I've done I've went up to 12mg, for the record, including right now.
 

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I've gone up to 20 on LGD that's overkill... 12/16 is the sweet spot for it. 8mg-10mg is decent
 
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I've gone up to 20 on LGD that's overkill... 12/16 is the sweet spot for it. 8mg-10mg is decent
I've thought about going up to 16, but haven't done it yet. Is the difference between 12 and 16 dramatic in terms of positive or negative effects?
 

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I've thought about going up to 16, but haven't done it yet. Is the difference between 12 and 16 dramatic in terms of positive or negative effects?
Pumps get VICIOUS, hunger sky rockets, and my strength really starts going, also the most noticeable is how it leans out the mid section. WATCH BLOOD PRESSURE, at this dose.
 
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Pumps get VICIOUS, hunger sky rockets, and my strength really starts going, also the most noticeable is how it leans out the mid section. WATCH BLOOD PRESSURE, at this dose.
Argh. Sounded so tempting until you mentioned that about blood pressure. Dammit.
 

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Argh. Sounded so tempting until you mentioned that about blood pressure. Dammit.
It doesnt get horrible.. im planning on running it at that dose with 4 other hormones.. as long as you have proper supports you'll be fine, just by some RC cialis and take 5mg ed it'll help control blood pressure mroe than anything tbh.
 
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It doesnt get horrible.. im planning on running it at that dose with 4 other hormones.. as long as you have proper supports you'll be fine, just by some RC cialis and take 5mg ed it'll help control blood pressure mroe than anything tbh.
I'm using a bunch of stuff right now including nitrates to control my blood pressure; pretty sure cialis would be a bad idea lol. My BP runs at 140/80 normally now, so I don't know. I may increase the lgd dose in a few days. I just added osta in with it at 15mg and I don't want to change too many variables at the same time.
 

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I'm using a bunch of stuff right now including nitrates to control my blood pressure; pretty sure cialis would be a bad idea lol. My BP runs at 140/80 normally now, so I don't know. I may increase the lgd dose in a few days. I just added osta in with it at 15mg and I don't want to change too many variables at the same time.
I'd drop the osta all together... They compete for the same receptors and you're wasting osta.
 
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I'd drop the osta all together... They compete for the same receptors and you're wasting osta.
I don't agree; I've ran it all alone and together and have found the combination to be best. Also, we wouldn't stack different AAS since they compete for the same receptor as well.
 

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I don't agree; I've ran it all alone and together and have found the combination to be best. Also, we wouldn't stack different AAS since they compete for the same receptor as well.
To each their own, I personally haven't tried it so you could be right. That was just off of what I read.
 

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I don't agree; I've ran it all alone and together and have found the combination to be best. Also, we wouldn't stack different AAS since they compete for the same receptor as well.
Im with you on this I think.

Why increase LGD dose from X to Y, when the extra Y amount will be competing for the same receptors as X?

There must be some upper limit regardless of what compound(s) are being used, but I doubt anyone here is approaching that let alone reaching it.
 
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Hey everybody, Happy 4th of July to my fellow Americans. I started week 5 of my OL Legend, Super-4 Elite cycle. Yesterday I decided to bump my dose up to 12 mg ED, this morning at the gym After taking my LGD I felt extremely Nauseous and overall kinda crappy while working out. I think iv'e seen some other reports of people experiencing nausea, is there any way to combat this? Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I'm on day 19, and haven't felt nauseous, but have had 2x where I felt kind of lethargic / crappy. I fought it with sleep, and extra water.
 
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Im with you on this I think.

Why increase LGD dose from X to Y, when the extra Y amount will be competing for the same receptors as X?

There must be some upper limit regardless of what compound(s) are being used, but I doubt anyone here is approaching that let alone reaching it.
Agreed. I still might go up in lgd dose though once I'm sure the dose I'm at now with osta my BP stays good.
 
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Im with you on this I think.

Why increase LGD dose from X to Y, when the extra Y amount will be competing for the same receptors as X?

There must be some upper limit regardless of what compound(s) are being used, but I doubt anyone here is approaching that let alone reaching it.
let alone anyone willing to do so-
 

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Agreed. I still might go up in lgd dose though once I'm sure the dose I'm at now with osta my BP stays good.
Part of me is kinda not surprised that you might get better results running osta+lgd, compared to one or other.

My broscience intuition is that its entirely plausible that running, say, moderate doses of 3-4 compounds would yield better results than running a high dose of 1 or 2.
 
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Part of me is kinda not surprised that you might get better results running osta+lgd, compared to one or other.

My broscience intuition is that its entirely plausible that running, say, moderate doses of 3-4 compounds would yield better results than running a high dose of 1 or 2.
i can agree with that, as long as you kept it all in some moderation but def agree
 

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i can agree with that, as long as you kept it all in some moderation but def agree
Aye, if "must MAXIMISE receptor modulation!!" is one side of the coin, "must MINIMISE sides/risks as much as possible!!" would surely be the other. Or something to that effect.
 
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Aye, if "must MAXIMISE receptor modulation!!" is one side of the coin, "must MINIMISE sides/risks as much as possible!!" would surely be the other. Or something to that effect.
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If its bp related, smiths recc to drop dose may do trick. Itd be good to have some sort of way to measure, though. You afford one? Shouldnt be too expensive for a basic cuff model, and they damn handy at ruling out some symptom causes (and catching potential probs early).
I will look into getting one, thanks for the suggestion!
 
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I hope this isn't too much information for you guys, but I am starting to think i'm just constipated, because after I took a crap I felt a lot better, for some reason i'm blocked up right now.
 
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I hope this isn't too much information for you guys, but I am starting to think i'm just constipated, because after I took a crap I felt a lot better, for some reason i'm blocked up right now.
Put a 1/4 cup of chia seeds in your shakes, this will never be a problem again, guaranteed. Outside of fiber, the general health benefits of chia seeds are awesome. Controls bp, omega 3 / 6, supports hydration, antioxidants, protien... and a boatload of other stuff.
 
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I hope this isn't too much information for you guys, but I am starting to think i'm just constipated, because after I took a crap I felt a lot better, for some reason i'm blocked up right now.
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