trying to put together a pre-contest cycle
- 05-05-2005, 01:56 PM
- 05-05-2005, 02:31 PM
a few comments
i wouldn't use the halo until you are 2 weeks out
100ed of winny is pretty high .. how many weeks are you going to run this for
drop the prop 1-2 weeks out
run adex at 1mg 1-2 weeks out
can't comment on the primo
i don't know if you really need the prop at 700mg a week .. you are cutting not building mass ... so you just need to prevent muscle loss ... but that depends how big you are along with experience
my pre contest is 100mg prop eod, 100mg masteron eod, and 80mg mdht ed ... i'm 5'8 186 at 7 weeks out ~ 6%
and i use E/C .. i hate clen and don't think i need t3
just my 2 cents
- 05-05-2005, 02:33 PM
Glen you are a smart man... My apologies for bickering with you in my earlier thread.
05-05-2005, 02:53 PM
thanks magickk and no need to apologize man its all good .. now lets rock and roll
05-05-2005, 03:19 PM
Smart a** more like it.Originally Posted by Magickk
05-05-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by glenihan
thanks bro. do you think 2 weeks is going to be enough with var? i was thinking more like 4 weeks. i am scared ****less about losing muscle on t3 so thats my main reason for running high doses of test. BTW right now i am 244, 9%bf
05-05-2005, 06:32 PM
... i didn't see anything about var in your original post .. if you meant halo then yes 2 weeks should be enough to see the hardening effects ... if you're already at 9% don't even bother with the t3 .. way more trouble than its worth .. so i say definitely scrap it
05-05-2005, 08:09 PM
yeah my mistake, i meant halo....i managed to get a good price on parabolan so i am going to incorporate it into my cycle. so its going to beOriginally Posted by glenihan
i knocked down the prop since i am not going to be using t3...i was sceptical about it from the start, from what i read it eats up pretty fast. I should get decent results with ECA/clen.
Do you have any experience with var? i could get a good price on it, though i dont know if its worth it, i am running plenty as is.
05-05-2005, 08:59 PM
i don't have any experience with var
why are you running BOTH para (tren hex) and tren ace? that's a WHOLE ****LOAD of tren .. i would run one or the other (probably ace) but i don't see a reason to run them both
everything else looks good .. how many weeks out do you plan on starting?
05-05-2005, 09:16 PM
right now i am running 50mg winny ED, 75 tren ED and 100 prop ED, i'll add the rest 4 weeks out.Originally Posted by glenihan
05-05-2005, 09:30 PM
but why the two different kinds of tren .. 250mg of tren eod is a lot for pre contest .. hell IMO its a lot any time
05-05-2005, 09:56 PM
Also, adding tren hex 4 weeks out isn't gonna do much is it? How many carbons is that ester again?Originally Posted by glenihan
05-06-2005, 05:47 PM
05-06-2005, 05:47 PM
05-06-2005, 07:13 PM
glen, why do you dislike clen?
Oh, and good luck with your show slava...
05-06-2005, 07:39 PM
05-06-2005, 07:56 PM
If by shut down you mean HPTA imbalance, well, basically all anabolics do this at any useful dose.Originally Posted by Josey Wales
If you're talking about tren dick, as long as you're taking supraphysiological levels of test and keeping your estrogen at reasonable levels, you will definitely have a sex drive and the equipment will still work. Hell, some people don't get tren dick at all, and I suspect that for the vast majority of people, appropriate hCG dosing should be enough to keep the tren dick at bay without the use of exogenous testosterone.
05-06-2005, 08:09 PM
ditto, i have run quite high doses of tren for a rather long period of time and at no time did i experiece any sexual problems. as long as you keep estrogen an prolactin levels low you should be fine. I noticed that anadrol is very worst in this sence. I had been using it for 8 weeks, and now i cant cum no matter what! my prolactin levels must be off the hook. does anybody know of any meds besides b6 to lower prolactin?Originally Posted by kwantam
05-06-2005, 08:10 PM
thanks bro, i hope to post some picks some time close to the show.Originally Posted by lifted
05-06-2005, 08:16 PM
my mistake i meant tren ace 100EW and parabolan 150EW. I managed to get a very good price on it, so i thought of incorporating into my cycle. if i go with one, which one is better for pre-contest? i was told para was great for muscle hardening so and i am eager to try it.Originally Posted by glenihan
05-06-2005, 09:54 PM
tren is tren .. although people claim para is better IMO this is based off the REAL para that was made in France years ago .. i'm not sure if the tren hex from today is THAT much better ... the tren ace is my vote, it'll kick in quicker i would save the para for another cycle .. i just don't see the need ... run the tren ace at 75-150mg ed-eod .. it all depends on your past tren experiences
and yes it will shut him down pretty hard since its a 19-nor derivative and cutting out the test earlier than the tren will not help .. but i wouldn't advice ending the cycle right after the show .. i would discontinue the tren immediately after the show and add the test prop back in for two more weeks along with 250-500ius of HCG e3d and THEN start PCT
05-06-2005, 10:08 PM
05-06-2005, 10:09 PM
Vitex, a.k.a. chaste berry.Originally Posted by slava
05-07-2005, 01:14 AM
thanks ill try that,,,
BTW has anyone had any success with proviron? i am getting conflicting information. some advice to use it in case you have problems cumming and some say it actually shut them down. I am hard as a rock but i am tired of faking orgasms. i really would not know how to explain it to my gf.
05-07-2005, 07:05 PM
how can you fake an orgasm? hahaha....I shoot buckets, I could never get away with faking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-07-2005, 09:49 PM
its frustrating as hell, every time we have sex i get pissed off
05-07-2005, 11:01 PM
Try some dostinex, that is the best drug at lowering prolactin levels, some even claim that while taking dostinex you can have multiple orgasms, that would be cool
05-08-2005, 02:33 PM
thanks bro, ill look into it. do you by any chance know any good sources?
05-08-2005, 03:13 PM
05-08-2005, 06:08 PM
dostinex is an OTC med i dont see whats wrong with me asking
05-11-2005, 08:54 PM
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