Looking at running a cycle of this at 45/45/60/60/75/75 with dermacrine or androvar as a test base. Does anybody have experience with this compound? How were the results in terms of strength/size and did you use it for a cut/bulk/or recomp?
Thanks for the input, do you think I would be satisfied if I used during a caloric surplus? From my understanding, it would serve well. How were the strength and weight gains?Just ran it last year with 200mg of cyp/week. I was using it on a lean bulk and it did just that. Closest thing I can compare it to is winstrol. It felt just like winny did. Pumps we're not quiet as good as they were from winny, but I had a fullness all damn day in my muscles. Worst thing was the lethargy that started at around the end of week 1. Winny never made me lethargic.
Damn, sounds like I'll be running it, I might post up a log with cycle plan soonI was up 8lbs at the end of four weeks, and I wasn't running a huge surplus, or a huge dosage(only 30mg/day); so you may get better results off of a higher dosage. Strength was really on point with this one. To put the strength gains in perspective I started benching 315 for 7 on flat, ended at 315 for 13 on flat.
Run it! I want to see peoples results from taking it on a caloric surplus. 4 andro sounds better as a test base to me personallyNope but I got some in my shelf, just begging to be ran! So yeah I'm interested, too. I was thinking Dermacrine or Alpha Gainz 4-Andro as a base
On day 3 now. Will run a 6 week bulking cycle - 30/45/45/45/60/60. Had a long and intense shoulder workout this morning, seems that endurance is up already. Will keep you updated.Looking at running a cycle of this at 45/45/60/60/75/75 with dermacrine or androvar as a test base. Does anybody have experience with this compound? How were the results in terms of strength/size and did you use it for a cut/bulk/or recomp?
Definitely keep us updated! I really want to know how it works for a bulkOn day 3 now. Will run a 6 week bulking cycle - 30/45/45/45/60/60. Had a long and intense shoulder workout this morning, seems that endurance is up already. Will keep you updated.
You should make a log for itOn day 3 now. Will run a 6 week bulking cycle - 30/45/45/45/60/60. Had a long and intense shoulder workout this morning, seems that endurance is up already. Will keep you updated.
Busy days here... I cannot commit to a log with continous updates. On day 11 now. I think yesterday was the day when this really kicked in. Did chest in the morning and back in the evening. The back workout was brutal, with an aggressiveness similar to what I had at the peak of the Havoc cycle. Still a bit behind the max levels, but I see that the endurance is better, typically the 4th and 5th set is notably better than usual on-cycle performance. Did shoulders this morning, a very nice and high-intensity workout. As for the weight gain, up 4 lbs (1.8 kg) so far, and I can see some changes in the mirror (fuller chest, etc).You should make a log for it
Thanks for the update man!Busy days here... I cannot commit to a log with continous updates. On day 11 now. I think yesterday was the day when this really kicked in. Did chest in the morning and back in the evening. The back workout was brutal, with an aggressiveness similar to what I had at the peak of the Havoc cycle. Still a bit behind the max levels, but I see that the endurance is better, typically the 4th and 5th set is notably better than usual on-cycle performance. Did shoulders this morning, a very nice and high-intensity workout. As for the weight gain, up 4 lbs (1.8 kg) so far, and I can see some changes in the mirror (fuller chest, etc).
Busy days here... I cannot commit to a log with continous updates. On day 11 now. I think yesterday was the day when this really kicked in. Did chest in the morning and back in the evening. The back workout was brutal, with an aggressiveness similar to what I had at the peak of the Havoc cycle. Still a bit behind the max levels, but I see that the endurance is better, typically the 4th and 5th set is notably better than usual on-cycle performance. Did shoulders this morning, a very nice and high-intensity workout. As for the weight gain, up 4 lbs (1.8 kg) so far, and I can see some changes in the mirror (fuller chest, etc).
No.Any fat gained?
Day 16 here. Weight was 90.7 kg (200 lbs) this morning, up 4 kg (8.8 lbs) since the start of the cycle. Strength really starting to pick up, yesterday I did dumbbell shoulder presses; 14 reps with 35 kg (77 lbs), vs 15 reps at the last day of the rpn havoc cycle. Did legs this morning, had a real burn with 33 reps of 100 kg (220 lbs) smith machine squats. Entering into an exciting phase now, all in all looks good.Anything else to update us with hercules?
Damn nice, I'm really looking forward to my run...How long did you take off between this cycle and the havoc?Day 16 here. Weight was 90.7 kg (200 lbs) this morning, up 4 kg (8.8 lbs) since the start of the cycle. Strength really starting to pick up, yesterday I did dumbbell shoulder presses; 14 reps with 35 kg (77 lbs), vs 15 reps at the last day of the rpn havoc cycle. Did legs this morning, had a real burn with 33 reps of 100 kg (220 lbs) smith machine squats. Entering into an exciting phase now, all in all looks good.
Havoc cycle was a little more than 5 weeks. Took the same time off between that and the current cycle.Damn nice, I'm really looking forward to my run...How long did you take off between this cycle and the havoc?
You took 5 weeks off between the havoc and triumphalis or did you wait time on+pct?Havoc cycle was a little more than 5 weeks. Took the same time off between that and the current cycle.
Time on = Time off. Five weeks (or 37 days to be precise) from the last RPN Havoc dose to the first Triumphalis dose. Obviously, TUDCA is part of my support stackYou took 5 weeks off between the havoc and triumphalis or did you wait time on+pct?
How was 75mg? I plan on going up to that dose if 60mg doesn't feel like too muchI used this on a cut a while ago. I rather enjoyed the compound. I found that 60mg-75mg was pretty nifty. Looks like things are going well for you. Keep at it í*½í²ªí*¼í¿¼
Fantastic. It was a great run. Of course, it's a game of risk to reward consideration. If 60mg is doing the trick then stick there. Maybe the last week or two if the results stagnate.How was 75mg? I plan on going up to that dose if 60mg doesn't feel like too much
How many lbs did you gain and how long was the cycle?Fantastic. It was a great run. Of course, it's a game of risk to reward consideration. If 60mg is doing the trick then stick there. Maybe the last week or two if the results stagnate.
I heard that this should be very well for a cut/recomp as well. I have several bottles for later runs, maybe I will consider that route later, although I think this compund could be somewhat of an overkill for a cut. 60-75 mg is quite heavy, I might go for 60mg in the last 1-2 weeks. Did you do any before/after bloodwork?I used this on a cut a while ago. I rather enjoyed the compound. I found that 60mg-75mg was pretty nifty. Looks like things are going well for you. Keep at it ����
I did not (I know I'm irresponsible lol). I regularly run a test base year round so recovery wouldn't be determined and I avoid orals most the time. Been a good while since I used any.I heard that this should be very well for a cut/recomp as well. I have several bottles for later runs, maybe I will consider that route later, although I think this compund could be somewhat of an overkill for a cut. 60-75 mg is quite heavy, I might go for 60mg in the last 1-2 weeks. Did you do any before/after bloodwork?
Triumphalis and trest alone would make a great 6 week cycle I would imagineI've considered running OL Triumph with Trest and Max LMG for 6 weeks in the next few months but not too sure. Also throwing around Tren or Msten instead of LMG.
Agreed. And LMG/MSten/Tren would make it betterTriumphalis and trest alone would make a great 6 week cycle I would imagine
Have you ran triumphalis before?Agreed. And LMG/MSten/Tren would make it better
Hey. Weight is at 92.1kg, which is up 5.4kg (c. 12 lbs) in total. The weight gain has perhaps not been as strong as I wished for in the last 1-2 weeks. I am in the middle of week 4, planning to increase dosage from 45mg to 60 mg the last 1-2 weeks. Experiencing some lethargy but a little less than Havoc.Hercules1982 Any updates?
30/45/45/45/60/60. About to enter the 5th week now.What's your dosing scheme like?
The jury is still out. I LOVED Havoc, it was an awesome run, great for a bulk. Right now I just finished the 2nd gym session today, totally killed the back workout. The aggression is perhaps a bit better on Triumphalis, but I am not sure if I will pack on more weight than I did with Havoc. Probably leaning more towards recommending you Havoc, but you cant go wrong with either.I'm still debating whether to run a 6 week havoc cycle (I have ran havoc in the past) or a 6 week triumphalis cycle...Do you like the triumphalis better?
I like the glycogen retention and appetite enhancing effects that I read about triumphalis, I might just try itThe jury is still out. I LOVED Havoc, it was an awesome run, great for a bulk. Right now I just finished the 2nd gym session today, totally killed the back workout. The aggression is perhaps a bit better on Triumphalis, but I am not sure if I will pack on more weight than I did with Havoc. Probably leaning more towards recommending you Havoc, but you cant go wrong with either.
Thanks for the update man, i'll be starting mine soonI have 1-2 days left of the cycle before entering PCT, but consider this the FINAL REVIEW.
Overall cycle result: The target was to bulk up, and I have been eating quite heavily.
I gained 7.4kg (16 lbs), and largely kept definition.
Size (7/10):
This can definitely work as a bulker, and I think the nearest comparison, IME, is Rpn Havoc / Epistane.
Strength (8/10):
Great strength increases.
Side effects (5/10):
I have not yet taken blood tests, but I assume this would be the same as Havoc/Epi. As for lethargy, it is definitely an issue, but not more, maybe less than Havoc/Epi, or Halo for that matter.
WowOne other issue, while I do train 5-6 times per week off-cycle, this compound allows for some real hardcore training. Intensity and restitution is incredible, I trained 9 times per week. My routine:
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: Chest (morning), Back (evening)
Wednesday: Shoulder (morning), Arms (evening)
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Chest (morning), Back (evening)
Saturday: OFF
Sunday: Shoulder & Arms
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