Best PH out there!!!!! Help

[Augiem09]

I took a pro hormone when I was in college about 4 years ago called 5DecaZol the results were insane!!!!!! Now after the ban I can't seem to find anything that works near as well as that one did. I bought a bottle of xcell mammoth and I did notice some results but looks like now they changed the formula and it's now called mammoth resurrection. Any body taken that before and if not what's the best most power ph for bulking. Have also heard some talk on super mandro but a lot of the reviews on Google seems like they are just trying to sell you the product? HELP!

 

[tboan]

Have you tried 1 Andro?

 

[MMAguy]

M-sten is as close to superdrol as you will get. Dmz isn't bad either. 1 andro is good as well and a LOT easier on your body but will take longer to see results. But this isn't a dash. Any compound that puts 12-25lbs of bulk on In 4 weeks time isn't going to be good for your body. Lots of people like EPI due to the fact it's not bad on the system & still gives results over time.

 

[Augiem09]

Have not tried 1 andro but have seen some good reviews. I believe m sten is no longer available but super mandro is its replacement

 

[MMAguy]

Have not tried 1 andro but have seen some good reviews. I believe m sten is no longer available but super mandro is its replacement

You sound like you should stick around and do some research before doing a cycle of anything. Did you ever use pct? And m-sten is still widely available. Don't rush into stuff. Your health is important

 

[criticalbench]

Lg sciences with its unique delivery system included in 1-andro has been getting awesome reviews based on many logs. Def worth a look imo. I just started it today.

 

[tboan]

Superdrol is looking pretty good too

 

[Augiem09]

You sound like you should stick around and do some research before doing a cycle of anything. Did you ever use pct? And m-sten is still widely available. Don't rush into stuff. Your health is important

I did not use a pct my very first cycle, and lost a lot of what I worked for very quickly. But I have used a pct for the 2 cycles that I have done since. Health is everything and I take it very serious. It's the main reason why I joined this forum. To learn from everyones experiences. Thanks for all the feedback

 

[MMAguy]

I did not use a pct my very first cycle, and lost a lot of what I worked for very quickly. But I have used a pct for the 2 cycles that I have done since. Health is everything and I take it very serious. It's the main reason why I joined this forum. To learn from everyones experiences. Thanks for all the feedback

What pct did you use?

 

[Augiem09]

What pct did you use?

I was on natural pct from x-cel and most recent restore pct from flex.

 

[MMAguy]

I was on natural pct from x-cel and most recent restore pct from flex.

So you never used a SERM? Otc pct supplements are to aid in your pct, not to do the job 100%. You need nolva, clomid etc. I don't know crap about what that is you took but you're lucky you didn't get bad sides such as gyno. If you did get bad sides and know nothing about proper pct you my friend would be in a world of hurting and be sporting tits.

 

[Augiem09]

Superdrol is looking pretty good too

Definitely looks worth checking out... Might be one of my options

 

[Augiem09]

So you never used a SERM? Otc pct supplements are to aid in your pct, not to do the job 100%. You need nolva, clomid etc. I don't know crap about what that is you took but you're lucky you didn't get bad sides such as gyno. If you did get bad sides and know nothing about proper pct you my friend would be in a world of hurting and be sporting tits.

Lol serm might be something I would definitely should look at. Thanks for the info...and no gyno here...the only tits this guy was getting was at the club!

 

[MMAguy]

So you cycle with no SERM.
That is asking for issues, I bet you lose 90% of what you gain. Not trying to sound like an *******, but I speak truth.

 

[Augiem09]

So you cycle with no SERM.
That is asking for issues, I bet you lose 90% of what you gain. Not trying to sound like an *******, but I speak truth.

Correct...I wouldn't say 90% because I do work out 6 days a week year round but I do notice a difference 2 3 months after my last pill. No like I said thanks for the input..that's what I like to hear.

 

[MMAguy]

Correct...I wouldn't say 90% because I do work out 6 days a week year round but I do notice a difference 2 3 months after my last pill. No like I said thanks for the input..that's what I like to hear.

After your last pill, if it was good.. with no serm you are working out on 80% estrogen my friend. You should do some research, no need to hurt your body man. We are here to help.

 

[therese]

DASCA 2014 failed to name methylstenbolone (Alpha-1 & DMZ too) so for the time being it's still legal (in a grey zone sort of way) But per DASCA 2014 the DEA can ban it whenever they feel like it.

 

[dvw]

trestolone at 40 days or alpha 1 at 30 days can give 12 to 15 lbs gains. Both require SERM, I like clomid.

 

[Dma378]

Check out the Sparta line. Cerberus is as good as any of the Andro ph's available right now. On a bang for buck basis, it's hard to beat.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/sparta-nutrition/278539-cerberus-product-info.html

 

[therese]

Just occurred to me OP asked for best PH. The three I mentioned (alpha 1, msten, dmz) are all DS. So I'm changing my response to 1-Androsterone as possibly the best PH. But I'd stack it anyway.

 

[BrianP0523]

m1a is clearly the best "prohormone" still available. msten, dmz, trest, and superdiol (if it's ever back in stock) are the best designers still available. i wouldn't even waste my time with all that dhea garbage, unless maybe using it as a sort of mild test base.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Methyldiazirinol, haven't used personally but plan on it soon

 

[AnabolicGuru]

m1a is clearly the best "prohormone" still available. msten, dmz, trest, and superdiol (if it's ever back in stock) are the best designers still available. i wouldn't even waste my time with all that dhea garbage, unless maybe using it as a sort of mild test base.

Have you ran superdiol? If so, what dosage, how long and how were the results?

 

[BamBam0319]

m1a is clearly the best "prohormone" still available. msten, dmz, trest, and superdiol (if it's ever back in stock) are the best designers still available. i wouldn't even waste my time with all that dhea garbage, unless maybe using it as a sort of mild test base.

I wouldn't necessarily say "clearly"
Have you used any of the dhea garbage yet? Any sort of reasoning behind your skepticism?

 

[Augiem09]

Msten and dmz stack vs super mandro and andro the giant stack vs 1test and new superdrol????

 

[123abcabcabc]

My favorite at the moment are M1T-Oxime and Superdiol.

 

[mrgoomba]

Not sure I would stack msten and dmz together unless you are pretty experienced with both compounds. I may be wrong, but both look pretty strong.

 

[hvactech]

Not sure I would stack msten and dmz together unless you are pretty experienced with both compounds. I may be wrong, but both look pretty strong.

if only they made a product that combined the 2 together, that would be a SUPER combo...

 

[dvw]

It would be called super dmz rx 2.0.

 

[datsthat]

My favorite at the moment are M1T-Oxime and Superdiol.

What about M1T do you like? The reason why I ask is because I got a vial of Tren Base/M1T. Its supposed to be an injectable preworkout. Not sure if I am gonna use it or not.

 

[BamBam0319]

What about M1T do you like? The reason why I ask is because I got a vial of Tren Base/M1T. Its supposed to be an injectable preworkout. Not sure if I am gonna use it or not.

I'll take it if you end up passing on it

 

[datsthat]

I'll take it if you end up passing on it

Its yours if I decide not to take it. I got it as a bonus.... otherwise, I research before I purchase unlike some folks. I'll let you know. (I hope we didn't break any rules lol)

 

[123abcabcabc]

datsthat M1T is Rich Piana in a bottle (including all the bloat that walking potato carries)

 

[AnabolicGuru]

datsthat M1T is Rich Piana in a bottle (including all the bloat that walking potato carries)

Glycogen retention of the gods

 

[Augiem09]

It would be called super dmz rx 2.0.

Did some research on dmz and definitely has a lot of positive reviews. I ordered one bottle of dmz along with a bottle of 1 andro. Would you take one at a time or stack them together?

 

[MMAguy]

If possible stay away from products that contain both dmz and msten. Pretty harsh taking both. If you're experienced then you can but be sure you have a great on cycle aid.

 

[Augiem09]

If possible stay away from products that contain both dmz and msten. Pretty harsh taking both. If you're experienced then you can but be sure you have a great on cycle aid.

I ordered blackstone gear support as well. Is that what you were thinking?

 

[T-Bone]

datsthat M1T is Rich Piana in a bottle (including all the bloat that walking potato carries)

Don't disrespect M1T like that.

 

[criticalbench]

Superdrol is looking pretty good too

If you are talking about the new one from hi tech.. Yea it looks pretty freakin impressive on paper. Hopefully we can get some logs going to prove just how good it is. It won't compare to OG superdrol, but it should yield heavily impressive results.

 

[fame126]

if only they made a product that combined the 2 together, that would be a SUPER combo...

10mg dmz
10mg msten
Yeaah buddy!!

 

[MMAguy]

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10mg dmz
10mg msten
Yeaah buddy!!

Your liver is going to be hating you after 4 weeks. Trust me. Cycle support like crazy bro. You'll have some nice gains. Let us know how it went.

 

[fame126]

Lol ya I know! I'm tryin to plan it out now!

 

[delsolrob]

I never understood that ratio of m-sten to DMZ. effective dose of m-sten is well less than 20mg and the effective dose for DMZ is close to or above 30mg. so, you're either going to get way too much M-Sten, or not enough DMZ to be effective.

 

[MMAguy]

I never understood that ratio of m-sten to DMZ. effective dose of m-sten is well less than 20mg and the effective dose for DMZ is close to or above 30mg. so, you're either going to get way too much M-Sten, or not enough DMZ to be effective.

I agree. 10-15mg of msten is plenty to get the job done(gains). 20mg+ and your liver will be wanting to commit suicide.

 

[delsolrob]

There was one company, Iron Flex that made the closest thing to making sense. Their product was called stenzine...it was 5mg msten and 10mg dmz. I thought that made the most sense out of any of those pre-made stacks. I was bummed when they eventually reformulated to 10mg/10mg.

 

[b0bbYboy]

Guys. I have an unopened bottle of msten but the label said it has expired. 4 months already. Should I just throw it away or intake it in the near future.

 

[delsolrob]

as long as it was stored properly, it should be fine

 

[T-Bone]

Guys. I have an unopened bottle of msten but the label said it has expired. 4 months already. Should I just throw it away or intake it in the near future.

Throw it away.

 

[fame126]

Guys. I have an unopened bottle of msten but the label said it has expired. 4 months already. Should I just throw it away or intake it in the near future.

I have a ph that has a manufactured date of 3/14....... Pssshhh Ima run the **** outta that!!

 

[b0bbYboy]

I have a ph that has a manufactured date of 3/14....... Pssshhh Ima run the **** outta that!!

cant tell if you're trolling or being serious