Which brands currently still available are reputable?
Any recommendations?
Yes I know OL is amazing.
Any recommendations?
Yes I know OL is amazing.
Is FocusedNutrition trustworthy? They seem to be the only ones still producing SARMs.Many of the brands are no longer selling their sarms... a few that still are:
Focused nutrition (15% off right now at PHW supplements)
Primeval labs(only whats left for now)
There's been nothing but good reviews coming in from their older stuff. Many of their SARMs are brand new though so not much feedback from customers, mostly just anecdotal from the company and affiliates. Based on their other products though they're good to go.Is FocusedNutrition trustworthy? They seem to be the only ones still producing SARMs.
Which sarms have you used and what you found to be most effective?Been more than happy with OL. Don't really see myself using any other brand, although i think i'm done with SARMs.
Osta - probably my favorite.Which sarms have you used and what you found to be most effective?
Nice. Was hoping you had used LGD to give feedback on lol, considering a run soon.Osta - probably my favorite.
Card - decent endurance benefit, otherwise idk.
Rad - great for fat loss imo, lethargy is debilitating without a test base.
I am three weeks into an osta cycle using Osta Elite by Focused Nutrition at 25mg ED. I am enjoying it. Took care of a nagging shoulder, strength increases, and up 5lbs. By the time I am done, I will have used half a bottle and will have the other half for another cycle later this year.There's been nothing but good reviews coming in from their older stuff. Many of their SARMs are brand new though so not much feedback from customers, mostly just anecdotal from the company and affiliates. Based on their other products though they're good to go.
I used LGD about 3 years ago. Ran it at a low dose as the data at the time was concerning. My thoughts on it wouldn't be relevant to what people are doing now. Plus i don't even think the company i bought it from is still around. So there's that.Nice. Was hoping you had used LGD to give feedback on lol, considering a run soon.
Any reason why you are done if you don't mind me asking? Bad results? Sides? I have some Sarms and have never ran any but am considering a run after further research.Been more than happy with OL. Don't really see myself using any other brand, although i think i'm done with SARMs.
I would recommend giving Osta a try. So far I like it and you've seen my log. I update it daily and will add pre-PCT and post-PCT bloods when I get there. The gains are not outrageous, but it all depends on your expectations.Any reason why you are done if you don't mind me asking? Bad results? Sides? I have some Sarms and have never ran any but am considering a run after further research.
Vicious labs is Good to Go brother.There's a few others still around. Mostly small so not sure if anyone here has used from these. I'm sure there's many other small ones.
DNA Anabolics
DNA Pharma
Focused
Mass Genetics
Vicious Labs
Anabolic Technologies
Dealt with derrick for many years.Vicious labs is Good to Go brother.
Because injecting is always better lol. The suppression from SARMs simply aren't worth the body composition effects in my opinion. I repeat though, it's simply my opinion. I'd much rather pay the same amount of money and use test and tren.Any reason why you are done if you don't mind me asking? Bad results? Sides? I have some Sarms and have never ran any but am considering a run after further research.
agree but this can be handled with running PC midway through till the end. because this is a research product the effects on paper yield impressive results. however, each rat is different. the method of SARM- pill or liquid and the quality of the product should come into play.Because injecting is always better lol. The suppression from SARMs simply aren't worth the body composition effects in my opinion. I repeat though, it's simply my opinion. I'd much rather pay the same amount of money and use test and tren.
For someone who can't buy steroids because of whatever reason, SARMs probably are a great option.
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't listen to that shill fgt.agree but this can be handled with running PC midway through till the end. because this is a research product the effects on paper yield impressive results. however, each rat is different. the method of SARM- pill or liquid and the quality of the product should come into play.
regardless of the method of delivery, you need to remember, sarms are suppresive. IMHO, some of the supp companies are running 2 or 3 compounds in 1 pill. those who have never researched with sarms should stay clear of that. if the product is truely legit, running s4, ostra and LGD for a first run is not recommend. I dont care what that guy dillion says,
please note, i am not knocking any of the above products- havent used those. also, not a sponsor for any supp company or on any other forum. found my place and its here.
well said bro i cant tell you how many people i have told to stay away from him, his sites, products etc.Anyone with half a brain wouldn't listen to that shill fgt.
Why do you think that not doing steroids is linked to not being able to buy them? Test shuts you down, while osta just mildly suppresses you. For me that is enough of an incentive to look at SARMs as an alternative. Yes, osta is not as effective as test, but that's fine, I'm not gunning to look like Arnold.Because injecting is always better lol. The suppression from SARMs simply aren't worth the body composition effects in my opinion. I repeat though, it's simply my opinion. I'd much rather pay the same amount of money and use test and tren.
For someone who can't buy steroids because of whatever reason, SARMs probably are a great option.
Thats a very blanket statement. I have seen blood work where people were completely shut down by Osta. Suppression or shutdown, tell me whats the difference?Why do you think that not doing steroids is linked to not being able to buy them? Test shuts you down, while osta just mildly suppresses you. For me that is enough of an incentive to look at SARMs as an alternative. Yes, osta is not as effective as test, but that's fine, I'm not gunning to look like Arnold.
It's not that simple. If you google SARMs you will get a flood of his posts and his youtube videos. I consider myself lucky to have found this board.Anyone with half a brain wouldn't listen to that shill fgt.
True, it is a blanket statement. But shutdown means that you're effectively at 100% suppression, whereas suppressed could mean anywhere between 1% to 100%, dependent on the individual. As far as blood work, there are people that react strongly as well as people that do a cycle of SARMs then move on without bothering to do PCT. Most likely, the average result is somewhere in the middle and again it's user dependent. It's not unlike people who say that osta did nothing for them, but they are used to test-type results. So in their case yes, by comparison osta is like taking a multivitamin.Thats a very blanket statement. I have seen blood work where people were completely shut down by Osta. Suppression or shutdown, tell me whats the difference?
shutdown - no longer producing leutenizing hormoneThats a very blanket statement. I have seen blood work where people were completely shut down by Osta. Suppression or shutdown, tell me whats the difference?
It's good to have an open discussion and being a noob, I'm not going to belittle anyone. I have learned a lot on this board by reading all the different opinions and experiences.shyt- i am actually part of a forum that had a back n forth conversation that didnt lead to someone getting flammed!
fck- why the hell was i wasting my time before- good post fellas
You experiencing any sides with lgd? I have been looking into Sarms for a while now. I have read Yates' post of Sarms as well as other articles. Have you personally experienced any high estro sides?i wanted to run a cycle but honestly, finding a real source that provides real gear that i can get and not seized is a pain in the azz. reason i choose LGD. 2 weeks in and so far im impressed
I have to chime in here. Older thread but important in regards to Ceretropic and likely many other "Ostarine" suppliers.Ceretropic seems to have a good reputation.
think you meant "some of these" sarms- unless you have tested every supplier and every board sponsor here, that is one bold blanket statement to make without all the facts.I have to chime in here. Older thread but important in regards to Ceretropic and likely many other "Ostarine" suppliers.
I've long said that Ostarine bought online has a 99% chance of being faked as something else or nothing at all. In Ceretropic's case, the Ostarine I allowed my wife to use was not Ostarine, but rather Anadrol.
Yes, you read correctly - Anadrol. A-Bombs. The mother of all oral steroids. Fortunately, this particular steroid is well-tolerated by women. My wife went side-effect free for 12 weeks and saw several lbs of lean mass increases as well as a slight drop in body fat. I believe the initial 5 weeks she packed on 5lbs of muscle and burned 2lbs of fat, if I remember correctly.
Be warned. None of these "SARMS" are what you think they are. If you really want to know, go buy a steroid testing kit and put a few drops in the test vials to see for yourself. I have the pictures of the test kit results to confirm if it really comes to that but rest assured, everything, results, sides (or lack thereof) and test results point to oxymetholone AKA Anadrol.
It helps if you could recommend a supplier...think you meant "some of these" sarms- unless you have tested every supplier and every board sponsor here, that is one bold blanket statement to make without all the facts.
I'm saying it because I personally know the man who was the project manager for GTx when they did clinical studies on Ostarine. He surveyed the internet, ordered from many, many different suppliers and only found one to actually sell what they claimed to sell. This was a few years back and since then GTx has dropped the Ostarine project so I thought perhaps the true chemical structure has made it to the black market by now...but after seeing this result, I'm discouraged from ever dabbling with any of these.think you meant "some of these" sarms- unless you have tested every supplier and every board sponsor here, that is one bold blanket statement to make without all the facts.
little more detailed here and completely understand your point. Having that insider info is worth its wgt in gold and to the experienced person be very valuable. To the inexperienced, very costly.I'm saying it because I personally know the man who was the project manager for GTx when they did clinical studies on Ostarine. He surveyed the internet, ordered from many, many different suppliers and only found one to actually sell what they claimed to sell. This was a few years back and since then GTx has dropped the Ostarine project so I thought perhaps the true chemical structure has made it to the black market by now...but after seeing this result, I'm discouraged from ever dabbling with any of these.
So yes, blanket statement. I have inside information in regards to this particular compound. I choose to believe my friend (and project manager of the ONLY Ostarine clinical trial to date) over whatever a supplement company is telling me is in their product. 9mg of Ostarine was comparable to several hundred mg of Testosterone per week w/o the androgenic sides of course. So until you have an effective 3mg/day Ostarine source, I wouldn't think twice about believing it to be real Ostarine and a simple steroid test will show it to be a low dose of some cheap steroid --> not even Anavar, as it is kinda expensive and hard to come by anyways. Anadrol and D-bol, however, are very cheap to make and at low doses (5mg of DBol and perhaps 15-25mg of Anadrol) would be comparable to what Ostarine is "believed" to be like. Those steroids in low doses are fairly dry since there is not much conversion and given that Dbol has horrible sides for women, it would be a dead giveaway to a woman if she started taking "Ostarine" and had androgenic sides... you think about it, Anadrol is the perfect cover up. It is strong enough to give results in small doses but yet able to avoid virilization in women and still give notable increases in strength and weight gain. When I took the Ceretropic for the few days I took it, I ballooned up on it and knew something was amiss. I put on several lbs of water in a matter of 36hours and my muscle fullness went thru the roof. This, combined with the outstanding results my wife experienced, compelled me to test it.
For what it is worth, GTx claimed that there was NO suppression at 1 & 3mg and only moderate suppression at 9mg/day, with outstanding strength and muscle gains in the higher dose categories. So if suppression is present and excessive water retention is also there, rest assured, you aren't taking Ostarine. 25mg doses were illicit insane gains in muscle mass. Most folks are reporting similar gains at 25mg that 1-3mg of Ostarine brought in the clinical trials...
All this being said, this isn't exactly a bad thing for the "I want to stay legal" community. You now have a reliable Anadrol source that will fly right under the radar. Take that Superdrol + 2014 PH BAN!
I will continue to search out other SARM's and test them as I order them. Perhaps 1 or 2 more this summer to see what I find. I'm hoping to land on some legitimate Anavar being sold as Ostarine, as this steroid is the closest thing to a low dose of Ostarine in terms of anabolic expectations.
Which Ostarine products are being reported as "very dry" and with "awesome strength gains"? Those will be the best candidates.
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