Hdrol Run - Recomp - feedback appreciated!

[Db2]

So I'm looking at doing a recomp run with cals slightly over maintenance, this may vary depending on results. This will be my second cycle after a fairly successful epi cycle, which I responded well to.

I have two bottles of hdrol clone, one being GPL Halo 350, the other being Hard Rock H-Plex. The 350 is 35mg, and the hplex is 25mg, 60 in each bottle. Now for a variety of reasons, including the mixed dosage, and me not necessarily fully trusting the quality of either brand without knowing more (more specifically the GPL (Genetech Pharma Labs)), I'm going to try and mix the two throughout the run. What I've come up with based on this approach is the following schedule, and I'll adjust the dosages according to results, sides, etc. I'd love some feedback on the look of this.

I've read mixed reviews as far as the hepatoxicity of hdrol, so wondering what I need for supports. I have a bit of AI cycle support left, as well as a standalone hawthorn berry supp.

PCT will be a taper of clomid (what I have on hand) and exemestane if needed, might add some nolvadren xt in at the end if the exemestane seems unnecessary.

Any and all advice is welcome!

Week 1
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 = 53 left (35mg) Daily total = 60mg
25 25 25 25 25 25 25 = 53 left (25mg)

Week 2
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 = 39 left (35mg) Daily total = 70mg
35 35 35 35 35 35 35

Week 3
25 25 25 25 25 25 25 = 39 left (25mg) Daily total = 85 mg
25 25 25 25 25 25 25
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 = 32 left (35mg)

Week 4
25 25 25 25 25 25 25 = 25 left (25mg) Daily total = 85 mg
25 25 25 25 25 25 25
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 = 25 left (35mg)

Week 5
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 = 11 left (35mg) Daily total = 95 mg
35 35 35 35 35 35 35
25 25 25 25 25 25 25 = 18 left (25mg)

Week 6
35 35 35 35 35 35 35 = 0 left (35mg) Daily total = 110 mg
35 35 35 35 25 25 25
25 25 25 25 25 25 25 = 5 left (25mg)
25 25 25

 

[Hercules1982]

You should definitely get some TUDCA.

 

[Db2]

Tudca over something like cycle assist, or in addition to? Reason being? Sorry, my first cycle was a while ago, I've been out of the loop, remember hearing about tudca but never tried it.

 

[Db2]

Also, I ran my Epi cycle w/ Dermacrine, but with my lifestyle, the dermacrine was a real PITA. How necessary is running with an 'assisted test base', i.e. am I shooting myself in the foot running it without real test or without any kind of topical? I want to know I'm hammering my system for some useful reason lol.

I see split camps out there, some that say PH without a test base is a waste (or PH at all for that matter), and some that say it's fine to run without if you're ok with less gains/results.

Honestly I've been sitting on this stuff for a minute and want to put it to use, but I don't want to waste a bunch of money on unnecessary added products.

 

[Hercules1982]

Tudca over something like cycle assist, or in addition to? Reason being? Sorry, my first cycle was a while ago, I've been out of the loop, remember hearing about tudca but never tried it.

In addition, ingredients are different.
TUDCA is amazing and has solid research behind it (check examine.com for example).

 

[afluck410]

I have 2 bottles of the hard rock supps halo-plex. But it's the extreme version, which has 50mg pills and it's suppose to be my first cycle of anything lmao

 

[afluck410]

So let me know if the 25mg pills are legit!

 

[Db2]

As far as I know the hard rock brand had a solid reputation. The Genetech Pharma Labs is the more questionable one imo.

 

[Db2]

So on the issue of adding dermacrine or 4-AD, is it a really good idea to add these vs going hdrol solo? I want to place an order soon-ish.

If I decide to go the 4-AD route, will I need an anti-E while ON cycle? Could suppress-E or novadren xt be taken on cycle to this end? (I have both on hand).

 

[yates84]

Only 35mg per day? You won't get too much out of that dose.

 

[Db2]

Sorry, those are stacked, look at the totals. It's like 60/70/85/85/95/110.

I wrote it up really weird in a txt file while i was thinking it through.

 

[yates84]

Sorry, those are stacked, look at the totals. It's like 60/70/85/85/95/110.

I wrote it up really weird in a txt file while i was thinking it through.

Ha! I thought those were week totals lol. Those doses look pretty good. You should be good with just dermacrine for a base or you might not need a base at all. Halo is pretty mild as far as lethargy is concerned.

 

[Db2]

I saw some people running with androvar or 4-ad. Something to consider w/ the goal of a recomp, or?

If there are significant benefits to be had in terms of goal achievement, libido, and lethargy, I don't mind splurging on something. If we're talking a mild or questionable improvement I might hold off.

 

[Db2]

So I grabbed some Androvar, it should be here today. Going to drop this into the mix. Would love some thoughts on dosage to add to my above posted cycle. Advice, as always, is much appreciated!