3rd Cycle Recomendations

[Armbender]

3rd Cycle Chosen!

So, current stats

35yrs old
lifting for 15 years
professional athlete
low bf (consistently walk around with abs) bodyweight is low for competing only. on Hdrol, i made it to 158lb eating 5000Cal /day and training like a motherf**er
Completed 2 Cycles (listed below)

1st cycle
Helladrol - Week 3-8 – 50mg, 75mg, 75mg, 75mg, 75mg, 75mg
Nolvadex - Week 9-12 – 20mg, 20mg, 20mg, 20mg
Formula X - Week 9-12 - 1 Scoop/day
Division 1 - Week 9-12 - 2caps/day everyday
Titanium - Week 9-12 - 2caps/day everyday
Erase - Week 11-14 – 3pills, 3pills, 2pills, 1pill

I had AMAZING results from this cycle. gained 15lbs, kept 10. Strength was through the roof! very little sides, just really bad joints. I would def do this again if I could

2nd Cycle
Havoc - Week 3-8 – 30mg, 30mg, 30mg, 40mg, 40mg, 40mg
Stano - Week 3-8 400/600/600/600/600/800
Torem - Week 9-12 – 90mg, 60mg, 60mg, 30mg
Test Powder - Week 9-12 - 1 Scoop/day
Anabeta - Week 9-12 - 2caps/day everyday
Activate Extreme - Week 9-12 - 2caps/day everyday
Erase - Week 11-14 – 3pills, 3pills, 2pills, 1pill

This was an ok cycle, roughly 12lbs gain, 8 kept. High blood pressure, bad joints, felt shut-down throughout. Got rebound gyno from this though, first time with Torem, questioning the source. Would not do this one again.


Goal - Looking for lean dry gains and strength. want to retain 10-12lbs

Option #1 - Super Mandro Stack + Androvar
running the following - 6 weeks:
On Cycle
Super Mandro - 3/4/4/4/4/5
Androvar - 3/3/3/3/3/3
Andro the Giant - 0/1/2/3/3/3
Letrone - 0/1/1/1/1/1
Cycle Support - throughout
Pura D Shampoo throughout

PCT
Rebirth - 2/2/2/2
Post Cycle 3 - 2/2/2/2
Viron - 2/2/2/2

Option #2 -Test + Anavar
HCG Weeks 1-13 (250 Sun & 250 Wed)
Test E Weeks 1-10 (250 Mon & 250 Thurs)
Arimidex Weeks 3-16 (.25 EOD)
Anavar Weeks 8-12 (60/60/60/60/60)
Clomid Weeks 13-16 (50/50/25/25)

This would be my first attempt at injects. Still nervous about this one. I know and understand that it is probably a lot safer than the PHs I have taken in the past.

Option #3 - Xcel Sports Yeti Ultimate Stack
6 Week Cycle
Yeti - 1/1/2/2/2/2
Natural Pct - 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3
Mutant Cycle support - 2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2

PCT
Clomid - 50/50/25/25
Viron - 2/2/2/2

Any thoughts or concerns with any of the 3 listed options?

All 3 options run the same cost structure.

Option #4 - Xcel Sports Yeti Stack (8 WEEKS)
8 Week Cycle
Yeti - 1/1/2/2/2/2/3/3
CEL Cycle Assist - 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8

PCT
Clomid - 50/50/25/25
Post Cycle 3 - 4/4/4/4
Viron - 2/2/2/2

Tudca - full 12 weeks
Joyful Joints - full 12 weeks

 

[bighulksmash]

We carry a stack called the yeti ultimate stack @ phwsupplements. Take a look at it . The contents are some classic proven compounds that have serious power to build you up .

 

[Armbender]

Updated to reflect 3 possible options.

Right now, leaning towards the Yeti Stack

 

[Armbender]

Bump for no love

 

[Bunshichi]

I would lean strongly towards the socond option. Depending on the source of course.
I just wouldn't absolutely go with the first option. Just seems like a bunch of products chosen because they are left after the ban. However regarding those products my knowledge is very limited.

So I would advise, go with the socond option if you are sure your source is legit, go with the third if not.

 

[Armbender]

thanks man, i appeciate the feedback...

 

[mw1]

You need to grab some CEL Cycle assist and Tudca.....Mutant support is not going to cut it at all

 

[bighulksmash]

You need to grab some CEL Cycle assist and Tudca.....Mutant support is not going to cut it at all

Who has real tudca ?

 

[Armbender]

You need to grab some CEL Cycle assist and Tudca.....Mutant support is not going to cut it at all

im assuming your speaking of option 3?

 

[bighulksmash]

Option 2 would b good if you didn't work so much . Option 3 would give you phenomenal strength and recovery. Also an overwhelming sense of well-being.

 

[mw1]

im assuming your speaking of option 3?

Yes

 

[mw1]

Who has real tudca ?

Competitive Edge labs

 

[bighulksmash]

Competitive Edge labs

My bottle half empty just wanna stock up cuz im doing a log on my stores yeti stack.
Day 2 already feeling Good.

 

[bighulksmash]

http://phwsupplements.com/yeti-ultimate-stack-by-xcel-sports/ taking tudca on top of this

 

[Rodja]

Option two without a doubt. hCG isn't really necessary with that one either.

 

[Armbender]

So that's two for #2 and two for #3

 

[bighulksmash]

So that's two for #2 and two for #3

I vote 3 do i count ?

 

[Armbender]

You already voted!

 

[Armbender]

So far leaning to #3 with some added tudca

Will be running a 5-3-1 program

 

[bighulksmash]

So far leaning to #3 with some added tudca

Will be running a 5-3-1 program

Ill bet its the best stack you ever run

 

[DonnieM]

OL also have some good priced Tudca.

 

[bighulksmash]

OL also have some good priced Tudca.

Coupon code?

 

[DonnieM]

Coupon code?

Dont have any coupons, sorry bro...

 

[GetRekt]

Option 2, but dbol instead of anavar. I don't think anavar will get you much size honestly.

 

[rascal14]

Option 2 with whichever oral you want.

 

[Armbender]

Thanks guys

Good feedback so far

 

[Armbender]

Someone mentioned not running HCG, but I've researched a lot and it's always recommendd...

Still the case?

 

[Armbender]

UPDATED with Option 4 running better On cycle support and PCT for 8 weeks not 6

 

[bighulksmash]

UPDATED with Option 4 running better On cycle support and PCT for 8 weeks not 6

Option 4 is legit ! Instead of joyful joints im running glucosamine chondritin .

 

[IronAddiction]

Seriously? option 2 all day every day

 

[IronAddiction]

slap yourself if you dont run option 2

 

[IronAddiction]

test trumps all ph's all day every day, don't even kid yourself.

 

[Armbender]

then why are you doing a Super Mandro log? lol which looked like it had awesome results for a 30 day with only Mandro.....

because there could possibly be a time and place for PHs?

hmmmmm.....

 

[zman86]

Don't be tempted into the dark side brah... Stay in the gray and go with option 4.

 

[yates84]

Ever thought about picking a cycle based on your current goals? These guys have no clue who you are or what you're trying to accomplish. You need to make your own decision on this one and maybe ask for help setting up said decision

 

[Armbender]

Ever thought about picking a cycle based on your current goals? These guys have no clue who you are or what you're trying to accomplish. You need to make your own decision on this one and maybe ask for help setting up said decision

100% agree....thats why I put my goal in my original post

Goal - Looking for lean dry gains and strength. want to retain 10-12lbs

Ive read a lot of different cycles and these 3 seem promising, just wanted further opinions

 

[yates84]

100% agree....thats why I put my goal in my original post

Goal - Looking for lean dry gains and strength. want to retain 10-12lbs

Ive read a lot of different cycles and these 3 seem promising, just wanted further opinions

You could achieve these results with any of your options. I personally don't like multi compound stacks, they are never dosed right. Now the only question is do you want to pin or not. Want to pin? Run test. Want to take pills? Run mandro stack

 

[Armbender]

Thanks man, appreciate the feedback

 

[zman86]

Based on your cycle history, why not juet run a 5 week Hdrol bridge into 4 week Epistane cycle. Obviously your body responds pretty well to those 2 compounds, why not just play it safe and stick to what works. And run TUDCA the whole time.

 

[Armbender]

because i cant find hdrol anywhere right now...

i ran mr supps helladrol my first time but the was pre-ban

 

[zman86]

because i cant find hdrol anywhere right now...

i ran mr supps helladrol my first time but the was pre-ban

If you can't even get legit Hdrol... how you know the gear you might be getting in Option 2 are legit pharmaceutical grade? A lot of sh1t out there are under-dosed, contaminated or completely fake.

 

[Armbender]

good canadian source

not worried about the quality for option 2

 

[Armbender]

So far wiping out option 2

Stuck on 1, 3, and 4 now

 

[Armbender]

So this is what I am choosing to run

Updated Cycle

8 Week - No More Mr. Light Guy Cycle
Yeti - 1/1/2/2/2/2/3/3
Letrone - 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
Tudca - 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
Cycle Assist - 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8

PCT
Tudca - 1/1/1/1
PCT Assist - 4/4/4/4
Rebirth - 2/2/2/2
Follidrone - 2/2/2/2
Viron - 2/2/2/2
Letrone - 2/2/1/1

Not running a SERM (my choice)

Diet will be:
Cal - 3500
Protein - 180
Carb - 350
Fat - 100

Running 5-3-1 program

Viron will be run 5 days on 2 days off.

Thoughts??

 

[Armbender]

Updated, due to the generosity of PHW, I am now adding letrone and follidrone into my PCT

 

[bighulksmash]

Updated, due to the generosity of PHW, I am now adding letrone and follidrone into my PCT

You will love the results of these products. I have a cut lined up with some sick products from phw as well !!! Get em bro at your meet !!!