how abotu just not cheating?
Just wondering if using T3 at 50 mcg's just once a week on my cheat days would cause my thyroid to shut down for a long period of time? I was thinking that since T3 shuts your thyroid down after prolonged use at high dosages, it would not shut you down at a high dose for just one day.
how abotu just not cheating?
you will go insane not cheating sometimes....youll burn out not cheating
i don't believe i've ever seen a study that shows thisOriginally Posted by TheMyth
that's what cheat meals are for .. cheat days are just counter productiveOriginally Posted by UNDERTAKER
how about try DS's glucophase?Originally Posted by TheMyth
Indeed it's hard to mess up the week off of a cheat meal; however, a person can really screw up the hard dieting over the week with a cheat day.
This would be pointless.Originally Posted by TheMyth
Cheat meals at certain bf levels are actually needed, especially with the right diet.
why? I dont do cheat days, I do cheat meals....but its just one day?
Well I know I can put away aroud 10000 cals easy in a cheat day. That would be really counter productive to my goals.
what if your looking to bulk?
The problem is when ppl cheat they are looking to stuff their face with garbage. The thing is most garbage does not have the greatest of nutritional values. A proper cheat meal for me is pasta with lean red meat, ala NP. Carbs, carbs and more carbs.
It really depends on the person, you need to play around with it. Some like Beelz eat pizza, and chinese.
Anyway on a bulk you are already eating optimal calories daily according to activity level I would hope, so I would not have a cheat meal.
busted.Originally Posted by ryansm
but yeah, gotta find what works for ya. i did some cheat days for a while but i wasn't seeing the results i wanted. switched it up to 1 cheat meal on saturday's only and now things are going great.
Would one day of T3 actually accomplish anything? And I think it's better just not to cheat. I am dieting right now and in the past month I've only "cheated" once and it was easter. SOME TIMES you have to splurge, but I would keep it to a minimum.
so can anyone answer the question about shutting down your thyroid after just one days use.
as i stated before i've never seen any evidence that even prolonged use of T3 shuts down your thyroid
with that said using T3 for one day is pretty much worthless
Do you mean permanently, or at all? Surely your body will reduce its production of T3 in the presence of an exogenous source, no?Originally Posted by glenihan
yes, but there is evidence that it will bounce back quickly. i've seen a study that shows people who were wrongly diagnosed as having a thyroid disorder, and were prescribed thyroid hormone. after years of use, they discovered it was actually not a problem at all; stopped taking the drugs, and their thyroid bounced back to natural relatively quickly
so to answer your question, yes it will reduce t3 production, but it will bounce back
i meant shut you down while coming off .. ala HPTA shut down when coming off cycle without PCT .. i believe, and chasec backed me up, that the thyroid won't shut down like HPTA willOriginally Posted by kwantam
I know a couple people who do this, but that is based solely on "brotelligence" and they are not guru's by any stretch of the imagination. I know that people on lyle's UD2.0 use androgens for one day during carbups and seem to be fine, some may use t3 not sure. Twin Peak or Tkaarde may know more of this as well. Finally in lieu of t3 you could always run a transdermal 7-oxo starting even the night before and then through your cheat day.Originally Posted by TheMyth
I personally do not do cheat days....but my willpower is beyond absurd. Neurotic maybe is the right word.