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im planning out an msten cycle and really want to ward off the lethargy that everyone says is so strong. so what does everyone recommend for a test base?
 
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4 AD or Dermacrine is all that's left I think.. Not sure really, Test is cheaper..
 
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thank you. this cycle needs to be short and sweet or i would consider real test..
 
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if i were to use 4-ad would and otc estrogen blocker be sufficient to keep the estro sides away?
 
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Never used 4ad or an Otc product for estrogen.. No clue bro..

Some won't need an AI period..
Except Forma products, but those aren't available now..
 
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if i were to use 4-ad would and otc estrogen blocker be sufficient to keep the estro sides away?
It should be but you should always have something like exemestane on hand. Don't take any chances
 
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Nobody recommends trest? This become illegal or something?
 
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Isn't treat extremely hard to recover from?
 
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Isn't treat extremely hard to recover from?
I have found dermatrest extremely easy to recover from. I cannot speak on any other forms of it
 
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Not a lot left but at Strong Supplement Shop we have 1 and 4 andro and dermacrine left.
 
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what would the dosing for the dermacrine?
 
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what would the dosing for the dermacrine?
4-5 pumps per day applied to chest and shoulder area post shower. Best time is in morning for prolonged energy throughout the day. How many pumps depends on your body weight. Someone very light could get away with 3.
 
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The guys I know that ran it had a very hard time recovering. It crushed them.
What form of trest? There are too many to make a general statement. I'm assuming you are talking about trest ace or trest deca?
 
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What form of trest? There are too many to make a general statement. I'm assuming you are talking about trest ace or trest deca?
I've seen most people have recovered fine from trest ace..... I'm guessing ppl who had troubles recovering were running very high dosages
 

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