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    Ergomax LMG or SD


    for those of u who used both, which has worked better for u???

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    Quote Originally Posted by samv12
    for those of u who used both, which has worked better for u???
    I've used both and nothing even gets close to Ergomax LMG. Superdrol isn't in the same league from my experience!!

    Go with the Ergo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redneck
    I've used both and nothing even gets close to Ergomax LMG. Superdrol isn't in the same league from my experience!!

    Go with the Ergo!
    Ergomax, ive been on two cycles so far, strength increase is very good!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erfan.
    Ergomax, ive been on two cycles so far, strength increase is very good!!
    How has ergomax been on the hairline, for those who have taken it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty
    How has ergomax been on the hairline, for those who have taken it?
    Good question, ive done two cycles back to back. I have long hair and havent noticed one bit of receding hairline or hairloss, actually my hair is growing faster
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    Are you predisposed to MPB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty
    Are you predisposed to MPB?
    Nope My moms dad had a full head of hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erfan.
    Nope My moms dad had a full head of hair.
    So did my mother's father...yet I'm bald...not thinning...bald-bald...and I'm only 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpa5oh
    So did my mother's father...yet I'm bald...not thinning...bald-bald...and I'm only 30.

    man, im 25 years old and the only thing thats bald is my balls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty
    How has ergomax been on the hairline, for those who have taken it?
    I'm 43 and have a full head of hair.......Nothing make these locks fall out. Genetics!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redneck
    I'm 43 and have a full head of hair.......Nothing make these locks fall out. Genetics!!!!
    I hate you.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty
    I hate you.



    yea, i'm 31, been going bald since i was like 18. it's cool, my wife likes the shaved head look. at least that's what she tells me.
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    WTF...Ergomax? A PBE product ppl are saying blows SD out of the water?

    I'm curious...I'd love for some more ppl to chime in on this, so BUMP! BUMP!

    edit: Or was it PBE?? WTF? What's the deal wth this stuff, and whats "in it"?

    EDIT AGAIN: Okay, I educated myself on it
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    As I recall, LMG is quite good for gains, but much "dirtier" than SD -- many side effects. Acne, in particular, is a concern.
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    Never used LMG, but I love the SD cycle I'm on right now. Take it for what it's worth.
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    Ergomax, ive been on two cycles so far, strength increase is very good!!
    Did you ever use Superdrol? If so could you give some more details on the comparison of the two.
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    i must have missed ergo , i didnt think anyone was doing any post ban things like that.
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    I know this isn't much help cause I haven't taken superdrol, but I am on week 6 of an 8 week of ergomax, and I am up 12 pounds and down about 2% BF. I am sort of a non responder though. Also I had a little acne the first couple of weeks, but none really since, also a little bit of back pumps this last week. But like I said I haven't done superdrol to compare the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natiels
    Did you ever use Superdrol? If so could you give some more details on the comparison of the two.
    No sir, I have not. But I tell you what though. Im thinking of snagging about 4 bottles of Superdrol and doing a 4 week stack with Ergomax LMG. Take 20mg ED of Superdrol and 20mg ED of Ergo and see how that flies, I will be using the standard Tribulus, ZMA, Vanadyl sulfate and Glucosamine.
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    Erfan if you do go with that idea, keep an eye on the blood pressure. Front load some Hawthorn Berries and some Celery Seed. That stuff is cheap and can be found at any retail store (Walmart, CVS, etc.).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Spaz
    Erfan if you do go with that idea, keep an eye on the blood pressure. Front load some Hawthorn Berries and some Celery Seed. That stuff is cheap and can be found at any retail store (Walmart, CVS, etc.).



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    Sweet deal, so how many MG's per day should i take of the Berries and seed?
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    I have tried both, Didn't get very good results from SD 20mgs E/D just lethargy. 1 week into ergomax 20mgs E/D very pumped no sides, except horny and hard! I hope their new product will be as good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erfan.
    Sweet deal, so how many MG's per day should i take of the Berries and seed?
    Look for Hawthorn extract not just the berries standardized to vitexins in particular or flavonoids in general. Take as directed on the bottle about 3-4 weeks before the cycle.

    Same time frame for the celery seed and you might want to throw in some garlic extract.
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    Superdrol was great!Great Lean Mass and GREAT strength gains!!!!No loss in libido at all!Bench went up 20lbs.
    Havent taken ergomax.
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    For those of you who have tried both SD and Ergomax, does 10mg of SD roughly equate to 10mg of Ergomax? Is the potency of each the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erfan.
    No sir, I have not. But I tell you what though. Im thinking of snagging about 4 bottles of Superdrol and doing a 4 week stack with Ergomax LMG. Take 20mg ED of Superdrol and 20mg ED of Ergo and see how that flies, I will be using the standard Tribulus, ZMA, Vanadyl sulfate and Glucosamine.
    Don't do it. They're both methyls..
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    anyone else with experience want to chime in on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Tolerance
    Don't do it. They're both methyls..
    ^^x2^^ Your livers gonna be toast. You could rotate them for different days
    or weeks or whatever but dont do both at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalfan
    yea, i'm 31, been going bald since i was like 18. it's cool, my wife likes the shiny head look. at least that's what she tells me.
    which one is she referring to?
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    Now both of these products have been out a while, could more people chime in on how many mgs and what types of results were made. IE Muscle/ strength gain, hardness, libido gain/ loss, hairloss, prostate pain? Those kind of things. Thank you for your objectivity.
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    I've got some ergomax ordered, haven't tried it yet. As for superdrol, I gained about 20 lbs on my bench in 4 weeks. I was very satisfied with my strength, but I did get the lethargy that some people mention and had to stop. I was draggin' ass!
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    Whats more Dryer in gains SD or Ergo? I want to do a cycle but i don't want to blow up like i did on M1T
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    My thought for the future is to get a couple of bottles of Ergomax LMG from AX when it is released, and cycle between SD and this product over time.

    I don't think stacking them is a good idea, but keeping the body guessing is the key.

    Would people agree with this approach?

    One thing that I am not clear on yet is if the PCT needs to be more aggressive with the Ergomax.

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    I haven't tried Ergomax yet but have heard it's more androgenic than Superdrol. I'm about to finish a Superdrol/Max LMG cycle and the gains have been extremely lean and dry. I would feel safe recommending it if that's what you're after.
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    I have used both sd and ergo and I have to say that I could definately "feel" the sd more, but I think that the ergo is a superior product. The strength gains are comparable. I haven't gained as much weight on the ergo, but I have been eating alot cleaner on the ergo than I did with the sd. This is week 3 and I am up about 9lbs. The sides are far less on the ergo. I am not tired and lethargic and my libido is INDREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! That could have something to do with the fact that my gf just had a baby and sex was not an option for 6 weeks, but now I excersize the option no less than once a day. That is something I had a hard time with on sd.

    Oh some stats compare the two cycles:
    Age: 25
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    Wgt:224lbs

    Ergo/Prostan:20mgs/ed/75mgs/ed
    Sd:wk1-2=20mgs/ed
    wk3-4=30mgs/ed
    wk5=25mgs/ed (planned on 6 wks, but had to stop after 5 due to back pumps)
    sd results: gained 18lbs of weight, kept 7 after pct shouldn't have dosed so high or so long (i have since learned)
    ergo results so far: 9lbs of weight and gaining and still feel great!
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    Oh some stats compare the two cycles:
    Age: 25
    Hgt: 6'
    Wgt:224lbs

    Ergo/Prostan:20mgs/ed/75mgs/ed
    Sd:wk1-2=20mgs/ed
    wk3-4=30mgs/ed
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    sd results: gained 18lbs of weight, kept 7 after pct shouldn't have dosed so high or so long (i have since learned)
    ergo results so far: 9lbs of weight and gaining and still feel great!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty
    How has ergomax been on the hairline, for those who have taken it?
    I'm very curious about this as well. SD did have an effect on my hairline, where it did start the thinning process of my pre-disposed balding. It wasnt huge, but i could tell that it has thinned the hairline. I plan on running another SD cycle but will have all the hair precautions (which i didnt have the first time). I was curious as to how ergomax would effect the hair line. Any help out there????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthog
    I'm very curious about this as well. SD did have an effect on my hairline, where it did start the thinning process of my pre-disposed balding. It wasnt huge, but i could tell that it has thinned the hairline. I plan on running another SD cycle but will have all the hair precautions (which i didnt have the first time). I was curious as to how ergomax would effect the hair line. Any help out there????
    I am also curious about Ergomax's effects on the lipid profile. SD has shown negative effects on lipid profiles as indicated in several logs showing blood test results. Any indications about Ergomax's effects?
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    I had to stop Ergomax due to some weird nipple sensitivity - stopped at week 2 - but strength gains were good, maybe gained 1 kilo total.

    Into end of week 1 of SD (20mg) and Prostan (100mg), Ultra Hot (3caps), not up any weight yet, but up strength. Have been eating real clean though. The pumps on SD can be killer.. I mean real killer... Much worse that a Deca/Winny/Test cycle I did.. quite painful at times.. but ya gotta love the pump!

    SD I can definately FEEL more. Ergo i Feel like i "looked" better on.. hard to explain.. kinda like a low dose of test to me.
    Libido on Ergo was better too.. dangerously better actually.

    I am going to bridge using Activate/Ultra HOT on a MaxLMG / Ergo cycle in like three weeks, so might give a bit more feedback then.. At the moment anyway, the Ergo and SD are in the same ballpark as Max LMG for me.. Maybe I was just a good responder to that stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungeon1
    I have used both sd and ergo and I have to say that I could definately "feel" the sd more, but I think that the ergo is a superior product. The strength gains are comparable. I haven't gained as much weight on the ergo, but I have been eating alot cleaner on the ergo than I did with the sd. This is week 3 and I am up about 9lbs. The sides are far less on the ergo. I am not tired and lethargic and my libido is INDREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! That could have something to do with the fact that my gf just had a baby and sex was not an option for 6 weeks, but now I excersize the option no less than once a day. That is something I had a hard time with on sd.

    Oh some stats compare the two cycles:
    Age: 25
    Hgt: 6'
    Wgt:224lbs

    Ergo/Prostan:20mgs/ed/75mgs/ed
    Sd:wk1-2=20mgs/ed
    wk3-4=30mgs/ed
    wk5=25mgs/ed (planned on 6 wks, but had to stop after 5 due to back pumps)
    sd results: gained 18lbs of weight, kept 7 after pct shouldn't have dosed so high or so long (i have since learned)
    ergo results so far: 9lbs of weight and gaining and still feel great!
    Dude, I am 6'3 and 91kilos. You sound freakn huge at that size. What b/f are ya? pics?
  

  
 

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