Alpha 1 max and dmz 2.0

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Would it be pretty dumb to stack these two or is it best seperate because I figured stacked is the same as sdmz3.0 and if used together what would be ideal dosage I done dmz and liked it never messed with alpha though
 
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I wouldn't stack the two, or use DMZ3.0 man. Muscle only grows so fast, and Alpha 1 max by itself will be close to the limit in terms of growth in a 4 week span. You can double or triple the side effects by adding multiple methyls, but it wont double or triple the gains.
 
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It would be about the same as super dmz3.0 if you took 2.0 and alpha 1 but i would be safe and just try to grab some 3.0 or just run the 2.0 solo. if you decide to run both you're definitely going to want some good cycle support and tudca.
 

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Yes I figured I think I'll run alpha by itself anyone ever done a cycle?? How is it on sides and maintainable gains
 

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Starting my alpha 1 cycle on Monday mate, will log it if you want to follow
 

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Bicep alright I will hopefully it goes good for you lmk
 

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Run a single compound high, these stacks are so dumb, zero synergy
 
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Definitely going to need a test base with Alpha 1. Keep a mild preworkout with you unless you want to be a bulked up lethargic zombie at week 3.
 

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Hah is c4 good preworkout did you run alpha jokers
 

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Weeks 1-4
Alpha 1: 3 caps ED 60mg
Blockade Cycle Support: 6 caps ED (1000mg NAC) (Ran 2 weeks into PCT)
TUDCA: 500mg ED (Ran 2 weeks into PCT)

PCT:
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
 

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Are you going to add derma or 4ad while on cycle
 
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Weeks 1-4
Alpha 1: 3 caps ED 60mg
Blockade Cycle Support: 6 caps ED (1000mg NAC) (Ran 2 weeks into PCT)
TUDCA: 500mg ED (Ran 2 weeks into PCT)

PCT:
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Looks good. Will need a test base for lethargy probably. Dermacrine works pretty well. Also Nolva is usually ran 20/20/10/10.
I would also add to your pct. if the cycle goes well for you, you will have a lot of extra mass and strength to keep up after. Add a natty test booster. dAA is cheap and works well. Follidrone or x gels would be good too. Also have an AI just in case.
 

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My cycle layout so far is
Week 1-4
Alpha 1max 40/40/40/40
OL Arm1care pro 3 a day everyday
Fish oils multi vitamins
IML 4andro or derma don't know which
PCT:
Nolva 20/20/20/10
Zma 3 every night
DAA 1500 mgs
Is this layout good any suggestions
 
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Looks pretty complete. I haven't used 4 ad but I have used derma. Derma seems to be a better value on most sites. Plus I like the transdermal as opposed to Yet more pills. Lol. I would have an AI on hand like exemestane in case of gyno flares. Better to be prepared than scrambling to find one quick.
 
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My cycle layout so far is
Week 1-4
Alpha 1max 40/40/40/40
OL Arm1care pro 3 a day everyday
Fish oils multi vitamins
IML 4andro or derma don't know which
PCT:
Nolva 20/20/20/10
Zma 3 every night
DAA 1500 mgs
Is this layout good any suggestions
Also, up the DAA to 3
 

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Ok I'm thanks for your input so derma topical work as good as pill form??
 
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I wouldn't use Daa at all..
I didn't get anything from it besides gyno flares asap..

I've used a whole entourage of natty supps to boost T.. The only one I ever felt working was Viron..

But I haven't really tried anything new out now, not into the natty game..

Just my 2cents
 
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I wouldn't use Daa at all..
I didn't get anything from it besides gyno flares asap..

I've used a whole entourage of natty supps to boost T.. The only one I ever felt working was Viron..

But I haven't really tried anything new out now, not into the natty game..

Just my 2cents
Daa is definitely user specific. Some people it works good for, some people have big problems from it. Daa works good for me in pct. I had a great pct last cycle with:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
OL super pct 4/4/4/4
OL epic 2/2/2/2
OL dermastrength 2/2/2/2
Bulk daa 3g throughout
I didn't lose a pound I gained and my strength was still great.
 

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