Pro-Hormones and Hair-Loss - The Reference Thread

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    Pro-Hormones and Hair-Loss - The Reference Thread


    What is your age?


    Pick one:
    a) I have a full head of hair
    b) My hair is thinning on top
    c) My hair is receding at the temples
    d) My hairline is receding generally
    e) I am bald (by choice or nature)


    Pick all that apply:
    a) My male relatives had similar hair issues at my age
    b) My hair-loss is rapid compared to the other men in my family
    c) My hair-loss is manifesting early in life compared to the other men in my family
    d) I have Male Pattern Baldness in my family
    e) all the above


    Have you noticed an increase in hair-loss that you associate with any pro-hormone(s)?
    If so, please list the PH(s) you associate w/ the hair-loss:

    Please rate the hairloss associated w/ each prohormone:
    0 - negligible
    1 - mild
    2 - moderate
    3 - severe
    4 - extreme


    Please describe the cycle (stack, dosing and duration) during which you became aware of the hair-loss:


    Was this your first cycle with the PH(s) in question?
    If not, please identify any differences between this and previous cycles:


    Pick one:
    a) My hair-loss slowed or stopped after the cycle in question
    b) My hair-loss has continued since the cycle in question


    Which any of the following compounds have you used?
    a) minoxidil
    b) azaelaic acid
    c) spironolactone
    d) ketoconazole

    Please rate the effectiveness of the compound(s):
    0 - no effect
    1 - marginal
    2 - okay
    3 - definite improvement
    4 - very noticeable
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    Hairline is receding slightly(only in temples). (23 years old)
    I take after my father I assume, who started receding at about the same age.

    Prohormones that caused hairloss for me were:
    1-test/1-ad- (harsh)
    M1T- (moderate)
    4ad- (moderate)
    M4OHN- (moderate, but at high doses >40mg)

    Prohormones that did not cause any hairloss:
    SD- (not even the slightest bit of itching at 30mg/day)
    14dione- (I ran it with my SD at 1000mg/day, also with not itching or shedding)

    I have been using minox for about 3 years and just started using keto about 1 year ago. Shedding has slowed down quite a bit since incorporating keto. I have also used spiro, but the smell just wasn't worth it. I just recently started using retin-a with my minox (supposed to help absorbtion). I'm just trying to slow down the inevitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    I like the moderate, harsh, slight ratings. Thanks. Anyone have a report for 4oht? (I know it's not popular...)
    Agreed! I'll put it in the initial post, if Greatest don't mind

    [ edit - made a few other tweaks as well... ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard
    What is your age?

    Pick one:
    a) I have a full head of hair
    b) My hair is thinning on top
    c) My hairline is receding
    d) I am bald (by choice or nature)

    c.-My hairline has been slowly receding for years. I still have a good bit of hair but I have a sort of high forehead on both sides.

    Pick one:
    a) My male relatives had similar hair issues at my age
    b) My hair-loss is rapid compared to the other men in my family
    c) My hair-loss is manifesting early in life compared to the other men in my family
    d) I have Male Pattern Baldness in my family

    a. My dad's hair receded. He's 68 and still has hair though. None of the men on my mother's side are bald. At least no one that I'm aware of.

    Have you noticed an increase in hair-loss that you associate with any pro-hormone(s)? If so, please list the PH(s) you associate w/ the hair-loss:

    I've stacked 4AD/1T/MOHN/1,4AD and I don't think I lost a single hair from it. The stack lasted 8 weeks.

    Please describe the cycle (stack, dosing and duration) during which you became aware of the hair-loss:

    Was this your first cycle with the PH(s) in question?
    If not, please identify any other differences between the cycles:

    Pick one:
    a) My hair-loss slowed or stopped after the cycle in question
    b) My hair-loss has continued since the cycle in question

    Have you used any of the following compounds:
    a) minoxidil
    b) azaelaic acid
    c) spironolactone
    d) ketoconazole

    I use a-d at various times. I use Dr. Lee's Nizoral and his Xandrox 15% Minox daily. I also use finasteride daily. The Az and Spiro, I use sporadicly. This may or may not be what is helping me avoid hair loss on cycle. But to tell you the truth, I don't want to stop using these things just to find out.

    Please describe the effect of the compound(s) on your hair-loss.
    Luck.
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    No Problem.
    I forgot, I also used 4OHT and 4OHN "oral" versions with no hairloss or itching.
    I'd say the safe ones are: SD, 14dione, 4OHT, and 4OHN
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    full thick head of hair
    only person i know of who has lost hair is my grandpa, didnt lose it till into his 50's or so i believe.

    1AD - none
    S1+ - none
    m14add - none
    m1t - none
    M5AA - pre-workout 40-60mgs none, pre-workout and during the day totalling 100-120mgs VERY HARSH, major shedding
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteclipse97
    23
    full thick head of hair
    only person i know of who has lost hair is my grandpa, didnt lose it till into his 50's or so i believe.

    1AD - none
    S1+ - none
    m14add - none
    m1t - none
    M5AA - pre-workout 40-60mgs none, pre-workout and during the day totalling 100-120mgs VERY HARSH, major shedding

    aww poor gst , buy the finasteride and quit f-n around with the minoxidil
  

  
 

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