my phosphophatidylcholine log w/pics
- 03-17-2005, 04:54 PM
- 03-17-2005, 05:17 PM
I'd appreciate it if you could post the whole log here, instead of just a link. Some of us have been banned from that ridiculous board.
03-17-2005, 05:34 PM
03-19-2005, 09:13 AM
I will try and copy the log over to here somehow. you should be able to view it without being logged in though i beleiveOriginally Posted by Strateg0s
03-19-2005, 05:29 PM
Ugh, not purposely trying to be an *******, but that last picture is honestly pretty damn gross. Is it that hard for you to lose fat that you need to leave your midsection in that kind of condition?
03-19-2005, 06:15 PM
Man, your pics are enough for me NOT to want to try that stuff if it makes your skin look like that.
03-20-2005, 11:01 AM
No its not that hard to lose fat. However you never actually lose the fat cells through dieting. This will actually kill the fat cells so they come back much harder. My goal here is to make my stomache not the first place my body stores fat by reducing the nuber of cells there and to make it one of the first places i will lose fat in the future.Originally Posted by max silver
The red marks (are my mistake I beleive) I didn't go deep enough and some of the PC was in the dermis. I will avoid this next time by going deeper and see how it goes. There is still going to be some redness and swelling in all areas but not to those extremes. The pain and swelling were increased at 48 hours but now are declining at 72 hours since injection
03-20-2005, 11:22 AM
03-20-2005, 01:53 PM
I'm having the same problems as Beowulf.Originally Posted by Beowulf
The game I can totally understand why you are doing this, even though it sounds painful(can't see pics). Some people might think you are just being lazy or don't know how to diet, but it sounds like you have a good plan to get rid of some fat cells.
Are you in a dieting phase right now or PCT from a bulking phase? This is interesting stuff, so any more info you could give would help. Good luck to you Game!
03-20-2005, 02:28 PM
I'm eating healthy but not shying away from carbs or anything. Just lower cals and high protein. I am also on t3/clen just finished the first week of a 3 week pyrimid of this.
I tried posting the pics here but got an error i will try agian
03-20-2005, 03:21 PM
03-20-2005, 03:29 PM
Wow, that is crazy. Hey, if it works more power to you. I'm not on the meso end of the spectrum so I don't ever need to worry about something like this, but it is interesting. Just be careful, as some of those injections look like they could get be headed for infection. Do you have antibiotics on hand?
03-20-2005, 04:12 PM
no there is no infections. i just didnt go deep enough on a few of the injections because i was worried about going to far in and injected into the dermis. those are the red bumps.
I will make sure to go deeper next time.
Last edited by TheGame46; 03-22-2005 at 04:11 PM. Reason: typo
03-20-2005, 04:14 PM
03-20-2005, 04:56 PM
03-20-2005, 06:03 PM
If that works in effectively killing fat cells in your stomach then all the power to you. My question is this though, won't you instead just store fat in other parts of your body instead? I could theoretically deduce that you may instead experience fat accumulation to great degrees in even less desirable areas, or whereever you store fat instead of your stomach. So perhaps you could be more likely to store fat in your chest, or your face, or somewhere equally prominent.
03-20-2005, 07:37 PM
**** that; is this the stuff that caused "non-specific cell lysis"? it was discussed in the anabolics forum last year; i avoided it, and it looks like i was right
03-20-2005, 09:26 PM
bottom line is there will be less cell period, and I am willing to handle a more dispersed fat gain rather than just around the waste which is where it currently resides. I can see the veins in my quads and shoulders and still have a gut. I hate it. I don't think anybody minds a little extra size in there arms and chest while bulkingOriginally Posted by max silver
03-20-2005, 09:28 PM
yes sub q. and it was 72 hours from the injection to the second injection pics they are labeled via filnameOriginally Posted by Jmart603
03-20-2005, 09:47 PM
I hear you man, some people just have a crazy genetic tendency to store abdominal fat. Just don't go overboard when bulking and it probably won't matter. So this is basically an alternative to liposuction, no?Originally Posted by TheGame46
03-21-2005, 01:44 AM
03-21-2005, 03:40 PM
I'm not here to flame I just want to track your progress, I came here to say.Originally Posted by TheGame46
1. Fat cells can multiply.
2. Fat cells will migrate to that area (your abdomen), the same thing happeneds after lipo.
03-22-2005, 04:01 PM
yes its basically the onyl alternative to to liposuction. The only other way to actually get rid of cells.
03-22-2005, 04:05 PM
What your talking about here will take much longer than it would to simply regain the volume in the cells after dieting. Fat cells grow in volume much more than they increase in number after puberty. I'm not too worried about the migration because I'm dieting now to lose the fat elsewhere so there will be little fat to migrate anywhere. I've 14lbs in the last 4 1/2 weeks thus far. (so keep flaming me for being lazy and not dieting) not to you thisguyOriginally Posted by thisGuy
03-22-2005, 05:21 PM
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