my phosphophatidylcholine log w/pics
- 03-17-2005, 04:54 PM
- 03-17-2005, 05:17 PM
I'd appreciate it if you could post the whole log here, instead of just a link. Some of us have been banned from that ridiculous board.
- 03-17-2005, 05:34 PM
03-19-2005, 09:13 AM
I will try and copy the log over to here somehow. you should be able to view it without being logged in though i beleiveOriginally Posted by Strateg0s
03-19-2005, 05:29 PM
Ugh, not purposely trying to be an *******, but that last picture is honestly pretty damn gross. Is it that hard for you to lose fat that you need to leave your midsection in that kind of condition?
03-19-2005, 06:15 PM
Man, your pics are enough for me NOT to want to try that stuff if it makes your skin look like that.
03-20-2005, 11:01 AM
No its not that hard to lose fat. However you never actually lose the fat cells through dieting. This will actually kill the fat cells so they come back much harder. My goal here is to make my stomache not the first place my body stores fat by reducing the nuber of cells there and to make it one of the first places i will lose fat in the future.Originally Posted by max silver
The red marks (are my mistake I beleive) I didn't go deep enough and some of the PC was in the dermis. I will avoid this next time by going deeper and see how it goes. There is still going to be some redness and swelling in all areas but not to those extremes. The pain and swelling were increased at 48 hours but now are declining at 72 hours since injection
03-20-2005, 11:22 AM
03-20-2005, 01:53 PM
I'm having the same problems as Beowulf.Originally Posted by Beowulf
The game I can totally understand why you are doing this, even though it sounds painful(can't see pics). Some people might think you are just being lazy or don't know how to diet, but it sounds like you have a good plan to get rid of some fat cells.
Are you in a dieting phase right now or PCT from a bulking phase? This is interesting stuff, so any more info you could give would help. Good luck to you Game!
03-20-2005, 02:28 PM
I'm eating healthy but not shying away from carbs or anything. Just lower cals and high protein. I am also on t3/clen just finished the first week of a 3 week pyrimid of this.
I tried posting the pics here but got an error i will try agian
03-20-2005, 03:21 PM
03-20-2005, 03:29 PM
Wow, that is crazy. Hey, if it works more power to you. I'm not on the meso end of the spectrum so I don't ever need to worry about something like this, but it is interesting. Just be careful, as some of those injections look like they could get be headed for infection. Do you have antibiotics on hand?
03-20-2005, 04:12 PM
no there is no infections. i just didnt go deep enough on a few of the injections because i was worried about going to far in and injected into the dermis. those are the red bumps.
I will make sure to go deeper next time.
Last edited by TheGame46; 03-22-2005 at 04:11 PM. Reason: typo
03-20-2005, 04:14 PM
03-20-2005, 04:56 PM
03-20-2005, 06:03 PM
If that works in effectively killing fat cells in your stomach then all the power to you. My question is this though, won't you instead just store fat in other parts of your body instead? I could theoretically deduce that you may instead experience fat accumulation to great degrees in even less desirable areas, or whereever you store fat instead of your stomach. So perhaps you could be more likely to store fat in your chest, or your face, or somewhere equally prominent.
03-20-2005, 07:37 PM
**** that; is this the stuff that caused "non-specific cell lysis"? it was discussed in the anabolics forum last year; i avoided it, and it looks like i was right
03-20-2005, 09:26 PM
bottom line is there will be less cell period, and I am willing to handle a more dispersed fat gain rather than just around the waste which is where it currently resides. I can see the veins in my quads and shoulders and still have a gut. I hate it. I don't think anybody minds a little extra size in there arms and chest while bulkingOriginally Posted by max silver
03-20-2005, 09:28 PM
yes sub q. and it was 72 hours from the injection to the second injection pics they are labeled via filnameOriginally Posted by Jmart603
03-20-2005, 09:47 PM
I hear you man, some people just have a crazy genetic tendency to store abdominal fat. Just don't go overboard when bulking and it probably won't matter. So this is basically an alternative to liposuction, no?Originally Posted by TheGame46
03-21-2005, 01:44 AM
03-21-2005, 03:40 PM
I'm not here to flame I just want to track your progress, I came here to say.Originally Posted by TheGame46
1. Fat cells can multiply.
2. Fat cells will migrate to that area (your abdomen), the same thing happeneds after lipo.
03-22-2005, 04:01 PM
yes its basically the onyl alternative to to liposuction. The only other way to actually get rid of cells.
03-22-2005, 04:05 PM
What your talking about here will take much longer than it would to simply regain the volume in the cells after dieting. Fat cells grow in volume much more than they increase in number after puberty. I'm not too worried about the migration because I'm dieting now to lose the fat elsewhere so there will be little fat to migrate anywhere. I've 14lbs in the last 4 1/2 weeks thus far. (so keep flaming me for being lazy and not dieting) not to you thisguyOriginally Posted by thisGuy
03-22-2005, 05:21 PM
03-22-2005, 05:44 PM
03-27-2005, 11:10 PM
04-04-2005, 02:10 PM
04-05-2005, 07:32 AM
04-17-2005, 05:27 AM
again......how painful were injects.....what did you cut phosphy with....what guage needle and how much was it?
04-17-2005, 09:52 AM
04-17-2005, 01:40 PM
I was pretty suprised by some people's reactions and a little disappointed. The way to more discoveries is not by slamming a person when he tries something new.
You guys may be suprised at what the research has show that PC can do besides fat loss but you just wanted to slam this guy so no kidding he stopped posting.
04-19-2005, 09:36 AM
How much did you spend to purchase this "treatment" and the pins?
Just curious, but somewhat interested. Also, could we see a recent pic?
04-24-2005, 02:03 AM
I agree. This kids plan seemed insane, but hey, it probably seemed insane when people started jabbing syringes into their muscles to get bigger. I just read through some of his other posts. This kid was really smart, especially for his age. I don't doubt he could be a great contributor here.Originally Posted by CROWLER
TheGame46, if you should happen to read this, we would be interested to hear more from you, not just on this but in general.
04-24-2005, 02:44 AM
Looks like he was shot with a fully automatic blow gun. To do something like that he either has huge balls or a small brain.
04-24-2005, 02:48 AM
Ok first off, PC is not a new thing. I saw it on animals board like at least a year ago prolly 18 months. It works but yeah, it looks sick, sucks that everyone flamed this guy cuz he did something most of us havent. But there is other PC info out there available......
04-28-2005, 09:32 PM
well, after the first set of injections (which were painful to the touch and hurt to bend over for those who have asked repeatedily) I wanted to wait for the marks from the first injections to"dissapear before I did the next set. They did not go away for a long time and I can still feel lumps where some of the inj were under the skin. I have some visible scaring from a few of the more harsh injections as well. I was not convinced that the product was very usefull. I did not see a significant loss in the fat in my abdomen despite cutting almost 20lbs on my t3/clen cycle. I wanted to do the additional treatments but I'm not willing to scar myself any more. I was told to discontinue use by the guy i got it from. He reimbursed me for the product (great guy great service at TLR) I guess my reaction was at the far end of the spectrum as far as side effects. I could handle the pain and swelling but the perminant scaring is a little much. Maybe if the lumps disapear I will try agian next winter with a longer needle to prevent dermal scaring. Sorry for the long delay, I was on spring break and had final before then. I will get you guys a pic when my gf gets back in town with the digi if you want but not much has changed. thanks for the support I got I will relog if I try again.
04-28-2005, 09:53 PM
04-28-2005, 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by 200wannabe
LOL I think your at the wrong board. This board is for us cheaters that use chemicals to enhance muscle and lose fat. We don't really lift or eat right we just juice up and take boat loads of dnp, t3, and clen. Seriously, their always has to be a first. I remeber when people starting converting fina the majority said how crazy it was and how dumb you would have to be to do it. Months later the majority was doing it. I think things always seem shocking at first.
04-30-2005, 12:23 PM
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