Cycle critique

[Abraham67]

what's up guys!
After doing research for a friend I actually decided it's time for me to hop back on cycle

Will be as following

Epi-andro rx 4caps a day/200mg
Msten 2 caps a day/ 20mg

Pct
Nolva 20/20/10/10
DAA 3GS ed
Finaflex revolution pct 0/0/2/2

Any critique? 4 week cycle

 

[Abraham67]

Rev pct will last 4 weeks sorry 0/0/2/2/2/2

 

[Dma378]

Cycle support?

 

[Abraham67]

Cycle support?

Cel cycle Assist!

 

[wasme]

IML Msten? if so I took that up to 40mg per day as I had no sides. Great stuff.

Edit: I also use Cycle Assist, but always add Tudca @ 500mg / day.

 

[Abraham67]

IML Msten? if so I took that up to 40mg per day as I had no sides. Great stuff. Edit: I also use Cycle Assist, but always add Tudca @ 500mg / day.

Yes iml Msten and iml epi andro!

 

[Abraham67]

IML Msten? if so I took that up to 40mg per day as I had no sides. Great stuff. Edit: I also use Cycle Assist, but always add Tudca @ 500mg / day.

Nothing like lethargy or libido loss?? Even at 40mg?

 

[wasme]

Nothing like lethargy or libido loss?? Even at 40mg?

I went 6 weeks...but no did not really have either. Now I was using Dermacrine as a test base.

 

[DevastatingD]

Nothing like lethargy or libido loss?? Even at 40mg?

If youre worried about libido you can either add in more epiandro/stano, trestolone, or dermacrine.

 

[Abraham67]

You don't think that much epi andro will keep libido up?

 

[Abraham67]

Starting tomorrow! Wish me luck

 

[wasme]

Starting tomorrow! Wish me luck

Keep us posted... keeping a log?

 

[Abraham67]

Keep us posted... keeping a log?

Thinking about it, if not il just throw some weekly updates on here

 

[wasme]

Thinking about it, if not il just throw some weekly updates on here

Excellent

 

[DevastatingD]

You don't think that much epi andro will keep libido up?

Not at only 200mg, maybe at 600 or 800mg.

 

[Abraham67]

Not going to log, but will update weekly, here is a before pic
191lbs
I'm guessing 13% bf?? Guess tho

 

[wasme]

If you google bodyfat chart (images) ... you are probably in the 11-12 range.

 

[Abraham67]

If you google bodyfat chart (images) ... you are probably in the 11-12 range.

Quick question for you man, you think il gain any fat? I'm not bulking, il actually be running a recomp, so if I can gain even like 3-5lbs of lean muscle il be happy

 

[hewhoisripped]

In that case shoot for like 200kcals above maintainence and increase by 100kcals/week, and then stick with that through pct.

Did you add TUDCA?

 

[Abraham67]

In that case shoot for like 200kcals above maintainence and increase by 100kcals/week, and then stick with that through pct. Did you add TUDCA?

Yes I did sir!

You think pct sounds good

Nolva 20/20/10/10
DAA 3g ed
Finaflex rev pct 0/0/2/2/2/2

 

[hewhoisripped]

I'd say 10%. It's a hard point. 12%+ is cut for sure. <8% is bulk. You're smack in the middle. A recomp is understandable but I'd keep cals more on the bulking side.

 

[Abraham67]

I'd say 10%. It's a hard point. 12%+ is cut for sure. <8% is bulk. You're smack in the middle. A recomp is understandable but I'd keep cals more on the bulking side.

I think ima go recomp, my main goal is to build my abs a little more, I'd like them to be a lot more defined, also wouldn't mind bigger arms! Other then that I'm pretty happy with myself

 

[mw1]

Cel cycle Assist!

Excellent choice!

 

[hewhoisripped]

More defined abs=cutting. Bigger arms=bulking. A recomp will slowly get you both, emphasis on slowly

 

[Abraham67]

More defined abs=cutting. Bigger arms=bulking. A recomp will slowly get you both, emphasis on slowly

Sounds great! I will definatly so a slow recomp!

 

[wasme]

With Msten I ate about 100-300 cals above maintenance. No real fat gain, but looked fuller all the time. Hewhoisripped is right on the money with his advice.

 

[Abraham67]

With Msten I ate about 100-300 cals above maintenance. No real fat gain, but looked fuller all the time. Hewhoisripped is right on the money with his advice.

Start cycle this morning, although I was on ABE before this, have 2 weeks left should I continue taking it? Or use the last 2 weeks in pct?

 

[wasme]

Start cycle this morning, although I was on ABE before this, have 2 weeks left should I continue taking it? Or use the last 2 weeks in pct?

Continue it. Taking two weeks worth down the road won't do much if anything. Msten will take 10-14 days to kick in so as you run out of ABE, Msten will be taking over.

 

[Abraham67]

Continue it. Taking two weeks worth down the road won't do much if anything. Msten will take 10-14 days to kick in so as you run out of ABE, Msten will be taking over.

Sounds great! Thanks man

 

[wasme]

Sounds great! Thanks man

No problem, good luck... keep us posted

 

[Abraham67]

No problem, good luck... keep us posted

Does it matter when I dose these? Like all at once or would it be better to do 2 epi andro 1 Msten morning then yhe other 2 epi andro and Msten in pm?

 

[Dma378]

Does it matter when I dose these? Like all at once or would it be better to do 2 epi andro 1 Msten morning then yhe other 2 epi andro and Msten in pm?

Definitely split.

 

[Abraham67]

Definitely split.

That's what I did today, was just making sure. One big dose sure would be easy tho lol!

 

[Dma378]

That's what I did today, was just making sure. One big dose sure would be easy tho lol!

Indeed it would. But with the short half life of epistane (Msten is a little longer), they would be metabolized out of your system in around 16 hours. So the split dose keeps the blood levels more even 24 hours a day.

 

[Dma378]

Correction...can't find an answer to Msten's half life, but Superdrol's is short like 6-8 hours, so Msten's is probably around the same. And they wouldn't be completely metabolized out of your system, but would drop considerably if only dosed once a day. Just thought that would help.

 

[Abraham67]

Correction...can't find an answer to Msten's half life, but Superdrol's is short like 6-8 hours, so Msten's is probably around the same. And they wouldn't be completely metabolized out of your system, but would drop considerably if only dosed once a day. Just thought that would help.

Thanks a lot for your help man, much appriciated!!

 

[wasme]

Yes definitely split your doses.. this will keep your levels consistent.

 

[Abraham67]

As I said not logging but will throw a few updates:
Day 4. Felt it starting to kick in yesterday, nothing much to report so far. Feel a little more agressive but actually am feeling pretty lethargic, which really is unusually like me.
Don't know why but scale has upped 3 pounds in these 4 days (have been drinking more water)
But I eat the same meals every day, so we will see where it goes from here!

 

[wasme]

As I said not logging but will throw a few updates:
Day 4. Felt it starting to kick in yesterday, nothing much to report so far. Feel a little more agressive but actually am feeling pretty lethargic, which really is unusually like me.
Don't know why but scale has upped 3 pounds in these 4 days (have been drinking more water)
But I eat the same meals every day, so we will see where it goes from here!

I typically get hit with a bit of lethargy at the start, but it fades away. The gain is probably some glycogen retention - which will make those muscles look fuller. Wait till the Msten pump kicks in, you will look swole all day!!

 

[Abraham67]

Hey guys, in some real need of advice, I have just had a death in the family and have to travel back to my home country.. I can not take my cycle with me, I need to come off early.

Flight is in 5 days.

Been on m sten and epi andro for 4 days including today

Have nolva and all pct gear on hand, what do you guys think I need to do??

 

[Abraham67]

Bump?

 

[wasme]

Sorry to hear of your loss.

Stop taking it today... you are only 4 days in so will be fine. Keep everything for when you get back and restart it.

 

[wasme]

Sorry to hear of your loss.

Stop taking it today... you are only 4 days in so will be fine. Keep everything for when you get back and restart it. You could use your Revolution PCT for 5 days if you wanted. If you can take that with you take it for 10... no need in using up the whole bottle though.

 

[DevastatingD]

Hey guys, in some real need of advice, I have just had a death in the family and have to travel back to my home country.. I can not take my cycle with me, I need to come off early.

Flight is in 5 days.

Been on m sten and epi andro for 4 days including today

Have nolva and all pct gear on hand, what do you guys think I need to do??

You dont need to do anything at all. Just stop taking them now, no PCT is necessary for only being on 5 days. If you want you can start DAA just for piece of mind.

 

[Abraham67]

You dont need to do anything at all. Just stop taking them now, no PCT is necessary for only being on 5 days. If you want you can start DAA just for piece of mind.

Really started feeling pumps today aswell. But family over everything. I am going to run 5 days of rev pct and try to take it with me, I don't see why I couldn't. Thanks for your help guys.

 

[hewhoisripped]

Sorry to hear of your loss.

Stop taking it today... you are only 4 days in so will be fine. Keep everything for when you get back and restart it.

spot on. if you have extra, take 1-2 weeks of lo dosed pct. can't hurt. I lost a family member in April. Just have to make the best of it. Think about what they'd want for you (I'm guessing move on and be successful with your goals). Channel the frustration into power, and when you get back you'll be much more driven in the gym, at work, at life.

 

[Abraham67]

spot on. if you have extra, take 1-2 weeks of lo dosed pct. can't hurt. I lost a family member in April. Just have to make the best of it. Think about what they'd want for you (I'm guessing move on and be successful with your goals). Channel the frustration into power, and when you get back you'll be much more driven in the gym, at work, at life.

Thanks for all the support guys, that is definatly where I am going to channel all my aggression. I Still have 26 days left of cycle so will restart when all is well again.

Hopefully 5-10 days on rev pct works well!

 

[hewhoisripped]

Thanks for all the support guys, that is definatly where I am going to channel all my aggression. I Still have 26 days left of cycle so will restart when all is well again.

Hopefully 5-10 days on rev pct works well!

You will have no problems. You probably aren't even shut-down too hard.

 

[Abraham67]

I had 2 erase pro pills left, so am taking one today and one tomrorow, and seeing if I even need rev pct!

 

[wasme]

I had 2 erase pro pills left, so am taking one today and one tomrorow, and seeing if I even need rev pct!

Save it - for real you will be fine. Have a safe trip.