Okay so my friend just ran a Dbol (25mgs a day for 6 weeks) and Deca cycle for 12 weeks, I think he did 1cc a week of deca...he put on a good 20lbs he ran clomid throught the cycle...Being an aspiring AAS guru I dont think this cycle was too great, he swears it is the BEST cycle for a first timer like himself and said anyone who knew anything about AAS would recommend the same thing for me...I am skeptical, I was under the impression that a GOOD (mass) cycle even for a first timer would have to include some kind of test, he said I was wrong...Then I asked him what he did for PCT he said he decided to rest 2 weeks then start a cutting cycle of turinabol (however you spell it) and deca, and his PCT would consiste of HCG and clomid...I thought I read that HCG was supposto be used DURING and one week past your cycle...am I right or what is the standard procedure...? Thanks for any help guys