Since 4AD is 95% as anabolic as test, and converts to test at ~15%, and some report injecting it with highly succesful results - could you mega-dose on 4AD transdermal with an anti-e like Nolva or Formasin and see some good gains?
For example, if you applied 1200mg 4AD/day, that would be about 480mg of 4AD absorbed per day, and ~72mg of test per day. At what rate does test convert to DHT?
It seems like a lot of us are running a 1test(a potent androgen) with a good dose of 4AD. What if you skipped the 1test all together and just relied on DHT conversion from the converted testosterone for the positive androgenic effects?
It seems like it would be a good (and cheap!) way to do a cycle...