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    I currently have for research...
    13.700g 4-AD
    4.410g 1-T
    3.336g 1-AD

    Going to administer transdermally or orally (in a long-chain fatty matrix).

    I can split it up any way I choose.
    I was thinking...
    Weeks 1 & 2: 350mg 4AD, 220mg 1T, 120mg 1AD (everyday)
    Week 3: 400mg 4AD, 240mg 1T, 240mg 1AD (everyday)
    Week 4 : ~850mg 4AD (everyday)

    PCT (last day of 4th week)...
    1000mg tribulus Terrestris, 300mg Eurycoma
    And Tamoxifen citrate, 20mg every day.
    PCT for 3 weeks, with an optional fourth week to taper off.

    What are your thoughts?
    Keep in mind this experiment must be run in some way as I have these extra chemicals and figured "why not".

    Notice I have a lot more 4AD that the actual "meat and potatoes" 1T and 1AD, but hey, that's the breaks!

    All comments are welcomed.
    (think of it as "If I had these, how would I maximally use them?")

    Thanks.

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    that looks ok to me. I would start with higher doses of tamox. the 1ad dose is low but if thats all you have go for it. also stacking it with 1t should help.
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    The part of your question re alternative PCT seems similar to the questions I;ve asked in the thread titled "First PCT with 6OXO, then what???. Here is hoping we get some proven alternatives.
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    Since 1AD and 1T are basically the same thing, why don't you save some 1T for week 4?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_town
    Since 1AD and 1T are basically the same thing, why don't you save some 1T for week 4?
    The 1-test is transdermal. So, he won't get the benefits until about 10 days or so. I'd begin it at the start, and run the 1-AD to the end. However, a 6-week cycle would be much better, IMO.
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    hmm...3 weeks of 1-T transdermal? i'd go 160mg ED for 4 weeks personally, just to extend the usage. i would expect to reap more gains than a 3-weeker at a slightly higher dose. not to mention you overshot the 1-T; what you have outlined would use almost 4.8g not 4.4g

    and i REALLY dont like the idea of finishing with high doses of the bloatiest compound. i'd go 490mg all 4 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck
    hmm...3 weeks of 1-T transdermal? i'd go 160mg ED for 4 weeks personally, just to extend the usage. i would expect to reap more gains than a 3-weeker at a slightly higher dose. not to mention you overshot the 1-T; what you have outlined would use almost 4.8g not 4.4g

    and i REALLY dont like the idea of finishing with high doses of the bloatiest compound. i'd go 490mg all 4 weeks.
    Truck:
    Your input is greatly appreciated, as well as the rest of you.
    I am hesistant also to run 4AD alone, as my subjects have experienced bloating.
    I just wan't to get the most out of my 1T and 1AD.
    I believe running the ~490mg ED of 4AD is a better plan.
    Would I then be lowering the 1T and 1AD to spread it out over 4 weeks?
    As for PCT, it seems most agree this is sufficient, and the Nolva dosage point is well taken.

    Thanks to all again.

    In hindsight I dhould've gotten 13.7 g of 1T
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_town
    Since 1AD and 1T are basically the same thing, why don't you save some 1T for week 4?
    Unfortunately, the 1T and 1AD are premixed in near equivalent quantities.

    Great idea though...wish the materials were there.
  

  
 

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