Well i ran into an old buddy of mine in the gym, and we started talking about lifting since he couldnt believe how much bigger i have gotten in a year. He starts telling me that he decided to get into shape too, and has been lifting for about 5 months (he is about 160lbs now), he starts telling me he takes whey, creatine and tosses "M1T" in there . He barely knew what creatine was! I asked him how much he took, etc... He finished the whole bottle in under a month, no liver supports, no PCT (!!!) and forget about blood work. He also drinks on weekends. Now this kid is no dumbass, but he simply treated m1t as just another "supplement" because it was advertised in such mild safe fashion. I educated him as much as i could, but it seems like people want to get "huge" with as little effort as possible.