Home chemist info

[DarkAngel]

I posted something like this once before, and got no response, it's been a while, I figure I'll try again. I'm wanting to learn as much as I can about home chemistry information to make different AAS solutions and stuff. I just don't know where to get the info. I'm talking even as simple as acronyms, and how to properly sterilize, it doesn't have to be about AAS per se, I need chemistry information. If anyone has someplace that I could do this research or good useful books please respond.

[tiggermoon]

i hear patrick arnold has something out with lots of home conversion info.

maybe do a web search.
good luck!

[regino007]

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[kwyckemynd00]

I posted something like this once before, and got no response, it's been a while, I figure I'll try again. I'm wanting to learn as much as I can about home chemistry information to make different AAS solutions and stuff. I just don't know where to get the info. I'm talking even as simple as acronyms, and how to properly sterilize, it doesn't have to be about AAS per se, I need chemistry information. If anyone has someplace that I could do this research or good useful books please respond.

What exactly do you want to do? We have a conversions forum which will have stickies, etc on creating AAS solutions from powder form, etc, but if you're looking too making chemicals, adding esters, etc I dont' have any helpful info

[lozgod]

What exactly do you want to do? We have a conversions forum which will have stickies, etc on creating AAS solutions from powder form, etc, but if you're looking too making chemicals, adding esters, etc I dont' have any helpful info

lol. Yeah, what do you need to know that you can not find on the boards?

[ChemicalD]

I'm talking even as simple as acronyms, and how to properly sterilize, it doesn't have to be about AAS per se, I need chemistry information. If anyone has someplace that I could do this research or good useful books please respond.

I would start with an ORGANIC text...mine is written by WADE.
Then, I would cover basic organic laboratory techniques with an experiment book, mine is by PAVALA.
These should give you enough information to build a solid foundation, and to be able to ask more specific questions.

I am a chemist. PM me or email with specific questions or for further discussion.

[DarkAngel]

I would start with an ORGANIC text...mine is written by WADE.
Then, I would cover basic organic laboratory techniques with an experiment book, mine is by PAVALA.
These should give you enough information to build a solid foundation, and to be able to ask more specific questions.

I am a chemist. PM me or email with specific questions or for further discussion.

YES!! This is what I was looking for, a basic start in books on organic/biological chemistry, which works with AAS creation and injections, but many many other applications as well. Thank you!!

[ChemicalD]

DA:
Keep in mind that the material is dense, and may take some time to understand.
Never begin an experiment without proper equipment, and never guess.
Chemistry is wonderful when you understand it.
Stay awy from biochem books for a while, they will only throw you off course in the beginning.

By the way, are you the same DA from T-rag.com
I am (was) the same ChemicalD, that is, until they banned me for calling them out on EVERYTHING!
(I mean, calling the "labs', the Customer service, and the bitch aka Cy Wilson).
I hope they show up at the AC....

[DarkAngel]

I don't seem to have access to PM you, but I was wondering if this was the first book you were talking about?

Amazon.com: Organic Chemistry (5th Edition): Leroy G. Wade: Books

I couldn't seem to find the other one. Do you think just that one would give me a good start?

[DarkAngel]

DA:
Keep in mind that the material is dense, and may take some time to understand.
Never begin an experiment without proper equipment, and never guess.
Chemistry is wonderful when you understand it.
Stay awy from biochem books for a while, they will only throw you off course in the beginning.

By the way, are you the same DA from T-rag.com
I am (was) the same ChemicalD, that is, until they banned me for calling them out on EVERYTHING!
(I mean, calling the "labs', the Customer service, and the bitch aka Cy Wilson).
I hope they show up at the AC....

No I'm not...I'm only DA on BulkNutrition and here so far.

[ChemicalD]

Here is the most informative book (I have found) on laboratory techniques:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

That text by WADE is fine (mine is the 4th ed.).

If you have little or no chemistry knowledge, get a general chemistry text also. If you are near/at a decent university, you should be able to find a plethora of chemistry texts that you can borrow from their library.

[DarkAngel]

Ok, well unfortunately I'm not very near a University, and have been out of college for quite some time, any good beginners chemistry books? I'm sure I'll get back to it pretty easy, I did well in high school, but that was around 10 years ago.

[ChemicalD]

Ok, well unfortunately I'm not very near a University, and have been out of college for quite some time, any good beginners chemistry books? I'm sure I'll get back to it pretty easy, I did well in high school, but that was around 10 years ago.

DA:
Any text simply listed as "CHEMISTRY: The Central Science" will suffice as a general chemistry book.
I believe that if one has an understanding of chemistry, or a capacity to understand it , the Laboratory Techniques books will give you the tools for your research.

A solid understanding of chemistry will allow you to seperate the "intelligence" from the "brotelligence" on the internet, while a working knowledge of chemical techniques will allow you to succeed in you research without dedicating hours upon end understanding the whole picture.

Choose you goals and start learning.

[DarkAngel]

Excellent thank you for all your help, I'm hoping I can pick up a used chemistry textbook as a starting point, and then I'll get a good start to keep moving forward from there. You've been a lot of help, and I really appreciate it...I'm a programmer/IT guy, so if you need any help I owe yah one =D

[DarkAngel]

I got Chemistry for dummies for $15 today, so I could try it out, and get my feet wet, then I'll move to a more intense chemistry book with problems, and such, then move to more biochemistry stuff after that...I hope that'll be a good progressive movement.

[wesley90]

Chemistry for dummies? rofl... Hey ChemicalD, lets say I wanna be like sledge...lol...create compounds and stuff...would the order of books go like this:

Basic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Physiology

Or would it be something else?
Thanks.

[ChemicalD]

Chemistry for dummies? rofl... Hey ChemicalD, lets say I wanna be like sledge...lol...create compounds and stuff...would the order of books go like this:

Basic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Physiology

Or would it be something else?
Thanks.

Rest assured, you can only learn so much from books. The real learning takes place in the lab, which I assume Sledge has spent considerable time in.

If your goal is to create pysiologically active compounds, I would learn-up on the Physiology first. Once you have a grip of that, you can delve into Chemistry(biochemistry), figuring out what makes what produce (blank) response/outcome.

Personally, as much as I work with Physiology, I have never had academic training in it. If sysnthesis is your goal, go for basic chem (just for kicks), then punish yourself with Organic, and polish up your biochem. But, you will NEVER be at a science-quality level without access to a lab and lots of practice in it. Thats just the nature of the beast. The lab is what learned me, and I ain't done never been no stupid! Seriously though, for homebrews, conversions, and "other" simple tasks, an organic college level text will give you what you need. You just can't wish to be a Organic synthesis chemist and hope it be so!

I think the Chem for Dummies will give you more trivial than practical info, but I have never read it so what the hell do I know.

And yes, I have always wondered how Sledge became "Sledge"???

Sledge???

[wesley90]

So if I wanna be like sledge...physiology then biochemistry...

[wesley90]

Would the physiology be more geared towards endocronology or what? Physiology is a WIDE range of subjects...
Thanks.

[ChemicalD]

Would the physiology be more geared towards endocronology or what? Physiology is a WIDE range of subjects...
Thanks.

No no. I don't know that much personal info about Sledge. Yes, Phys is a broad field. So that goes back to my point, you need academic training to really understand it (it being the whole picture).
Drug discovery is a very difficult area, just ask Dr.D