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6'0" 220 lbs 17% BF
Looking to lean out, not to bulk up. Diet is good, training is more for endurance and agility than strength and size.
So, I was diagnosed with low T about 3 months ago, doc said I was just below the normal range, no I don't know the number, but with symptoms and the blood work, he suggested TRT, but did not prescribe injections. I was prescribed 50 mg troche (test base sublingual) each day, so 350mg/wk but who knows what the actual amount utilized is with bioavailability of sublingual. The more I got to reading about the troche and test base and the further along I got after starting TRT I noticed surges of energy and periods of lethargy, the more I got thinking that my level must be spiking and dropping since test base has such a short half life. So, after some home chemistry with some implants, I have vials with test prop 100mg/ml. Started the injections eod 100mg and will be taking third inject tomorrow (5 days in now.) I have heard that PCT for people who are on TRT is simplified since there is an outside test source as opposed to kick starting my own production post-cycle. However, I wonder if I should follow a similar protocol to a normal PCT routine since my TRT is test base that fluctuates due to the no ester. Any ideas on what a PCT routine should look like for me? I was thinking of doing as follows
tamoxifen wk 1-2 40mg ed
wk 3-4 20mg ed
wk 5 10mg ed
I am running some tamoxifen at 20mg ed to try and reduce preexisting gyno, and will continue that for 6 months as a last-ditch effort to try to avoid cosmetic surgery
Guess I would just like some advice on the above and the questions below, I've researched the hell out of it, and have found so many conflicting statements, I don't know what to believe.
Questions:
1 should I follow usual pct even though I am on TRT (albeit an unorthodox form of TRT)
2 As I am prone to gyno, should I run some anastrozole for the whole cycle, to reduce bloating and prevent further gyno? What would dosing look like on cycle and for PCT?
3 Any tips on reducing PIP with prop? Cutting with sterile oil (extra ml of oil with each 1 ml injection?) This one was kind of funny, I thought that people who talked about PIP with prop were a bunch of whiners until the day after my first pin. (Definitely not unbearable, but annoying and noticeable, surprisingly quad was less sore than glut)
Thanks for the help, been lurking around here getting help from reading posts for awhile but this is my first post
6'0" 220 lbs 17% BF
Looking to lean out, not to bulk up. Diet is good, training is more for endurance and agility than strength and size.
So, I was diagnosed with low T about 3 months ago, doc said I was just below the normal range, no I don't know the number, but with symptoms and the blood work, he suggested TRT, but did not prescribe injections. I was prescribed 50 mg troche (test base sublingual) each day, so 350mg/wk but who knows what the actual amount utilized is with bioavailability of sublingual. The more I got to reading about the troche and test base and the further along I got after starting TRT I noticed surges of energy and periods of lethargy, the more I got thinking that my level must be spiking and dropping since test base has such a short half life. So, after some home chemistry with some implants, I have vials with test prop 100mg/ml. Started the injections eod 100mg and will be taking third inject tomorrow (5 days in now.) I have heard that PCT for people who are on TRT is simplified since there is an outside test source as opposed to kick starting my own production post-cycle. However, I wonder if I should follow a similar protocol to a normal PCT routine since my TRT is test base that fluctuates due to the no ester. Any ideas on what a PCT routine should look like for me? I was thinking of doing as follows
tamoxifen wk 1-2 40mg ed
wk 3-4 20mg ed
wk 5 10mg ed
I am running some tamoxifen at 20mg ed to try and reduce preexisting gyno, and will continue that for 6 months as a last-ditch effort to try to avoid cosmetic surgery
Guess I would just like some advice on the above and the questions below, I've researched the hell out of it, and have found so many conflicting statements, I don't know what to believe.
Questions:
1 should I follow usual pct even though I am on TRT (albeit an unorthodox form of TRT)
2 As I am prone to gyno, should I run some anastrozole for the whole cycle, to reduce bloating and prevent further gyno? What would dosing look like on cycle and for PCT?
3 Any tips on reducing PIP with prop? Cutting with sterile oil (extra ml of oil with each 1 ml injection?) This one was kind of funny, I thought that people who talked about PIP with prop were a bunch of whiners until the day after my first pin. (Definitely not unbearable, but annoying and noticeable, surprisingly quad was less sore than glut)
Thanks for the help, been lurking around here getting help from reading posts for awhile but this is my first post