Another Epistane thread. Need advice please.

[sleipnit81]

Hi guys,

I recently ordered an Epistane cycle stack and wish to do a 6 week cycle.

Here's my stats:

Age: 32
Height: 6'1 (185cm)
Weight: 183 (83kg)
Lifting Experience: About 8 years
Previous Cycles: deca + sustanon + winstrol (unfortunately done improperly/foolishly about 3 years ago, did not follow any consistent PCT and dealt with severe test shutdown for more than a year)

Goals: I'm looking to put on some lean mass. 10lbs would be good, more would be great.

The stack I bought is I.B.E. EPISTANE + LECHEEK CYCLE ARMOR (check supplement facts at end) + LECHEEK AD-3 PCT (check supplement facts at end)

CYCLE:

Throughout weeks 1 to 10: ANIMAL PAK + OMEGA 3 6 9 + GLUCOSAMINE/CHONDROITIN + PRE-TRAINING SUPPLEMENT (haven't decided which one yet, but definitely with taurine in it to help deal with possible back bumps)

Week 1 - Days 1-2 20mg Epistane + 2 caps Cycle Armor daily
Days 3-5 30mg Epistane + 2 caps Cycle Armor daily
Days 6-7 40mg Epistane + 2 caps Cycle Armor daily

Week 2 - Epistane 40mg + 2 caps Cycle Armor daily

Week 3 - Epistane 40mg + 2 caps Cycle Armor daily

Week 4 - Epistane 40mg (possibly 50mg) + 2 caps Cycle Armor da

Week 5 - Epistane 40mg (possibly 50mg) + 2 caps Cycle Armor

Week 6 - Epistane 40mg + 2 caps Cycle Armor

Week 7 - LECHEEK AD-3 PCT 2 caps daily + TRIBULUS 1000mg

Week 8 - LECHEEK AD-3 PCT 2 caps daily + TRIBULUS 1000mg

Week 9 - LECHEEK AD-3 PCT 2 caps daily + TRIBULUS 1000mg

Week 10 - LECHEEK AD-3 PCT 2 caps daily + TRIBULUS 1000mg

Do you guys think this is well structured? My main concern is liver protection and PCT. I've been reading a lot of confusing and sometimes misleading information about PCT with SERM, tamixofen, etc... could use some advice on this too.

Thanks!


CYCLE AMOR FACTS:

Serving Size 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container 30
Amount Per Serving
Serving % DV
Liver Support -
Prostate Support -
Blood Sugar Support -
Blood Sugar Support -
Proprietary Blends
Liver Support
Milke Thistle 360 mg, N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (NAC) 250 mg.
Prostate Support
Saw Palmetto 200 mg, Pygeum Bark 100 mg.
Blood Sugar Support
Hawthorn Berry 160 mg.
Blood Sugar Support
Celery Seed Extract 100 mg.

AD-3 PCT FACTS:

Serving Size 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container 30
Amount Per Serving
Serving % DV
Testoterone Support 75 mg -
GH Support 800 mg -
Liver Support 360 mg -
Proprietary Blends
Testoterone Support
Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione
GH Support
Velvet Bean (std. L-Dopa 99%)
Liver Support
Milk Thistle

 

[dustinfz6r]

You definitely should add nolva or clomid

 

[bcazo]

get the SERM or this will be your second messed up cycle..

 

[sleipnit81]

You definitely should add nolva or clomid

OK. What dosage? How about the cycle plan, do you think it's ok?

Thanks!

 

[sleipnit81]

get the SERM or this will be your second messed up cycle..

Thanks man! So I should add nolva or clomid. What dosage?

 

[dustinfz6r]

Nolva 20/20/10/10 or Clomid 50/50/25/25

Also your first couple days at 20mg of epi might be a little low. Most start at 30mg.

 

[sleipnit81]

Nolva 20/20/10/10 or Clomid 50/50/25/25

Also your first couple days at 20mg of epi might be a little low. Most start at 30mg.

Thanks for the advice. I just put 20 to test my body's reaction to epi, but I guess starting with 30 is probably wiser.

So there is no need to run nolva and clomid together, right?

 

[harbonah]

Thanks for the advice. I just put 20 to test my body's reaction to epi, but I guess starting with 30 is probably wiser.

So there is no need to run nolva and clomid together, right?

Yes pick one nolva or clomid not both. Start with 30 I highly doubt you will have any reaction to epi.

 

[sleipnit81]

Yes pick one nolva or clomid not both. Start with 30 I highly doubt you will have any reaction to epi.

thanks, man! I'll probably go with nolva as it's easier for me to get. What's your opinion on the cycle plan? I'm hoping to put on some 10lbs lean.

 

[acethetics]

thanks, man! I'll probably go with nolva as it's easier for me to get. What's your opinion on the cycle plan? I'm hoping to put on some 10lbs lean.

Those wouldn't be my choice for on cycle support and pct support, but they'll work I guess...

And 10lbs is doable, however not sure if it will be ALL lean.

 

[sleipnit81]

Those wouldn't be my choice for on cycle support and pct support, but they'll work I guess...

And 10lbs is doable, however not sure if it will be ALL lean.

Thanks! How about the Nolva dosage? Should I do 20mg/day for 3 weeks starting at the end of the epi cycle?

 

[sleipnit81]

Run it 20/20/10/10 as previously advised

lol, thanks man, I missed that

 

[sleipnit81]

Just a question: I'm on my third week of EPI but I haven't noticed any significant weight gain so far. My weight is actually the same before I started. I've been noticing more definition though. My calorie intake should be just about 3,000kcal. Should I increase it? Also, I'm an ectomorph so my metabolism tends to be faster than other body types.

Just another note: I'm lifting from Monday to Friday, one muscle group per day. About 7 exercises per body part, 4 sets of 8. Trying to push myself to the limit.

Am I doing something wrong here?

Could use your advice, guys.

Thanks!

 

[Mystere3]

I think set load is too high. Shoot for about 20 sets a day.

Cals are prob too low. I would increase by 500/day and see what happens.

You may be a non-responder to epi.

 

[sleipnit81]

I think set load is too high. Shoot for about 20 sets a day.

Cals are prob too low. I would increase by 500/day and see what happens.

You may be a non-responder to epi.

You're probably right. I've used injectables in the past and EPI seems a bit mild to me. I do see some benefits in hardening of the muscles.

As for the set load, I agree. I'm reducing it now.

Adding up an extra 500kcal on Monday and I'll keep you guys posted. At the end of the cycle I'll also post some before and after pics.

Thanks!