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This topic of interest to some, so I figured I would share.
Cause and background
I got my Gyno from Propecia about 6 years ago. I first noticed a small pea size lump under my right nipple. I discontinued Propecia and started taking Nolva which kept it at bay but did not reduce it. I was not working out at the time and was not on anything but had done cycles before with no problems.
It grew at a very slow rate over the years that I was not realizing it getting bigger. I start noticing it more and more about 2 years ago. I was back in the gym by then. I tried the Letro protocol and that managed to bring it down in size drastically and was very happy with the results, but still had puffy nipples. It went back to grow afterwards.
DAA had the most impact on the size and it doubled in size within two weeks or so from using DAA. It impacted me more than the two cycles I did in the past 3 years. At that point it was probably the size of flattened golf ball in both sides and puffy nipples. I also gained weight during that time and afterwards. Second cycle of Letro had no impact on size what so ever. I tried different RC products, no effect.
It was bothering me so much that I would not take my shirt off and I lost interest in going to the gym because of it and stopped all together about 5 months ago. I gained more fat of course and lost my size.
The Diagnostics
I decided to undergo a surgery since nothing else was working and I spent a lot of money trying surgery alternatives. I decided to go with experience over price. The doctor I went with is both Harvard and Yale graduate as well as an instructor at Harvard. He is in his late 40s or early 50s so that really impressed me. Not to mention he looks and behaves like Dr House, which was funny.
There is a large lump, so no doubt about it being gyno and gland tissue in case someone is wondering. He said he will perform lipo to take out the fat and he uses the same process they use for knee surgery to cut out and shape the gland rather than cut under the nipple which he thinks is excessive. This sounded really weird because everyone else had cut under the nipple to go in and remove the gland and one of the reasons I held out for so long.
I asked if he would take out the entire gland. He said he will not take the entire gland out because some gland is needed to keep the breast shape. Otherwise there will be a crater under the nipple with nothing to support the shape. I asked more about it and the chances of it coming back and he said he only had it reoccur once before and went back in and fixed it.
He does not use compression vest. He tapes it, which also was odd from what I've read in other procedures.
The Surgery
The cost was around $6,000. $1400 for the hospital, $1000 for the anesthesiologist, and the rest is his fee. The operation was done at a hospital. The procedure was 13 days ago.
7:00 am: I arrived for preps at the hospital where they took blood work, vitals, and preps
9:00 am: Doctor showed up for the procedure and drew lines on my chest like a topography map
9:15 am: I went to the operating room. The anesthesia burned like hell when it was being injected but knocked me out in seconds
2:30 pm: I woke up in recovery room. I had this massive 2" padding wrapped around my chest. It was made of cotton on top of foam taped to my body using very thick rubber tape right on the skin. It looked like a vest. Throat hurts from the breathing tube which lasted a day
4:00 pm: left the hospital, had someone pick me up
The Recovery
The first few days were very annoying. Dull pain, chest was sore and was difficult to get in and out of bed or stand up from sitting position. It felt as if something was pulling down on my chest skin and some discomfort. No pain meds were needed. The discomfort started going away few days later.
The most annoying thing was the padding. After 4 or 5 days, I removed some of the cotton padding to reduce the bulkiness. Few days later removed all the cotton padding and cut the top of the wrapping to reduce its size. Kept the foam since I could not remove. Due to the rubber tape, I felt I was having a rash under it. I used baby powder to sooth the itching under the padding/tape. The padding at this point was from mid chest point to mid abs so I could move my arms around fine. Some itching around breast areas.
The full padding was very noticeable under my shirt until I removed the cotton padding. I work from home so I did not have to explain anything to anyone and told family that I had bruised my ribs so I had to use protection.
The most annoying thing was not being able to take a bath. I had to take sponge bath and wash my hair in the sink using towels.
2 Weeks later
Today is 13 days post op to be exact. I went in and they took the tape and padding off. I am extremely impressed with the results:
I still have swelling in the upper chest and under armpits that was not taped and very flat where I was taped so you can tell at the moment. The swelling should go away in the next week or two. I cannot tell where he went in. I see a small dot under left breast, small wound that looks like I scratched myself against something mid right side of my body. No cut under the nipple, no stitches what so ever. I assume that is where he went in from.
Nipples are back to normal size. My chest is very flat now from being taped for 2 weeks, and I'm sure the months of not training had its toll.
I feel some hard tissue under the right nipple, less undeI am very excited to get back into the gym for the first time in months.r left side. I suspect it is scar tissue at this point. Much harder than the gland tissue. I will ask the doctor in my follow up next week, but I read people report scar tissue after surgery. Visually, no sign of gyno or puffiness. Back to normal. The area is very numb right now which is annoying but sensation should come back soon.
No lifting, or any activity that would elevate the heart rate for at least another 3 weeks to avoid internal bleeding which is not a problem.
Cause and background
I got my Gyno from Propecia about 6 years ago. I first noticed a small pea size lump under my right nipple. I discontinued Propecia and started taking Nolva which kept it at bay but did not reduce it. I was not working out at the time and was not on anything but had done cycles before with no problems.
It grew at a very slow rate over the years that I was not realizing it getting bigger. I start noticing it more and more about 2 years ago. I was back in the gym by then. I tried the Letro protocol and that managed to bring it down in size drastically and was very happy with the results, but still had puffy nipples. It went back to grow afterwards.
DAA had the most impact on the size and it doubled in size within two weeks or so from using DAA. It impacted me more than the two cycles I did in the past 3 years. At that point it was probably the size of flattened golf ball in both sides and puffy nipples. I also gained weight during that time and afterwards. Second cycle of Letro had no impact on size what so ever. I tried different RC products, no effect.
It was bothering me so much that I would not take my shirt off and I lost interest in going to the gym because of it and stopped all together about 5 months ago. I gained more fat of course and lost my size.
The Diagnostics
I decided to undergo a surgery since nothing else was working and I spent a lot of money trying surgery alternatives. I decided to go with experience over price. The doctor I went with is both Harvard and Yale graduate as well as an instructor at Harvard. He is in his late 40s or early 50s so that really impressed me. Not to mention he looks and behaves like Dr House, which was funny.
There is a large lump, so no doubt about it being gyno and gland tissue in case someone is wondering. He said he will perform lipo to take out the fat and he uses the same process they use for knee surgery to cut out and shape the gland rather than cut under the nipple which he thinks is excessive. This sounded really weird because everyone else had cut under the nipple to go in and remove the gland and one of the reasons I held out for so long.
I asked if he would take out the entire gland. He said he will not take the entire gland out because some gland is needed to keep the breast shape. Otherwise there will be a crater under the nipple with nothing to support the shape. I asked more about it and the chances of it coming back and he said he only had it reoccur once before and went back in and fixed it.
He does not use compression vest. He tapes it, which also was odd from what I've read in other procedures.
The Surgery
The cost was around $6,000. $1400 for the hospital, $1000 for the anesthesiologist, and the rest is his fee. The operation was done at a hospital. The procedure was 13 days ago.
7:00 am: I arrived for preps at the hospital where they took blood work, vitals, and preps
9:00 am: Doctor showed up for the procedure and drew lines on my chest like a topography map
9:15 am: I went to the operating room. The anesthesia burned like hell when it was being injected but knocked me out in seconds
2:30 pm: I woke up in recovery room. I had this massive 2" padding wrapped around my chest. It was made of cotton on top of foam taped to my body using very thick rubber tape right on the skin. It looked like a vest. Throat hurts from the breathing tube which lasted a day
4:00 pm: left the hospital, had someone pick me up
The Recovery
The first few days were very annoying. Dull pain, chest was sore and was difficult to get in and out of bed or stand up from sitting position. It felt as if something was pulling down on my chest skin and some discomfort. No pain meds were needed. The discomfort started going away few days later.
The most annoying thing was the padding. After 4 or 5 days, I removed some of the cotton padding to reduce the bulkiness. Few days later removed all the cotton padding and cut the top of the wrapping to reduce its size. Kept the foam since I could not remove. Due to the rubber tape, I felt I was having a rash under it. I used baby powder to sooth the itching under the padding/tape. The padding at this point was from mid chest point to mid abs so I could move my arms around fine. Some itching around breast areas.
The full padding was very noticeable under my shirt until I removed the cotton padding. I work from home so I did not have to explain anything to anyone and told family that I had bruised my ribs so I had to use protection.
The most annoying thing was not being able to take a bath. I had to take sponge bath and wash my hair in the sink using towels.
2 Weeks later
Today is 13 days post op to be exact. I went in and they took the tape and padding off. I am extremely impressed with the results:
I still have swelling in the upper chest and under armpits that was not taped and very flat where I was taped so you can tell at the moment. The swelling should go away in the next week or two. I cannot tell where he went in. I see a small dot under left breast, small wound that looks like I scratched myself against something mid right side of my body. No cut under the nipple, no stitches what so ever. I assume that is where he went in from.
Nipples are back to normal size. My chest is very flat now from being taped for 2 weeks, and I'm sure the months of not training had its toll.
I feel some hard tissue under the right nipple, less undeI am very excited to get back into the gym for the first time in months.r left side. I suspect it is scar tissue at this point. Much harder than the gland tissue. I will ask the doctor in my follow up next week, but I read people report scar tissue after surgery. Visually, no sign of gyno or puffiness. Back to normal. The area is very numb right now which is annoying but sensation should come back soon.
No lifting, or any activity that would elevate the heart rate for at least another 3 weeks to avoid internal bleeding which is not a problem.
